Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Friday, May 23, 2008

Gas price sensitivity

By Fester:



My wife noted that we are not particularly sensisitive to gas prices.  We live in a high density, reasonably walkable neighborhood with bars, restaurants, shops and grocery stores within walking distance, we own a single small car, and our combined daily car commute averages less than 8 miles.  Unless we are visiting the in-laws in New Jersey, we don't go through a (small) tank of gas per week.  We made significant lifestyle during a 'cheap' gas environment which have significant positive spillover effects now in an expensive gas environment.  Another dime a gallon does not effect us much. 



So when I read in the Post-Gazette about the lengths people go for cheaper gasoline, I remember that I am lucky:

Just yesterday, people waited for hours to get $40 in free gas at a Giant Eagle Express station in Harmarville in a deal talked up by radio station WDSY and paid for by the company that produces the Verizon Yellow Pages....



Yesterday, 24 giveaways were held from Los Angeles to Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, with each limited to the first 200 cars. In Pittsburgh, there was an effort to keep the location secret until just before the 11 a.m. start, although about 50 cars had already lined up by 9:30 a.m. yesterday, according to a Giant Eagle spokesman.



In other markets announcements were made earlier. In one city, a woman got in line the night before and slept in her car.

The standard technique for figuing out the value of time for a population is to look at the average hourly wage for the population and use that as a reasonbly proxy measurement.  An hour and a half wait would give a time value of $26.67/hr which is signigicantly above Allegheny County's wage rate, although that is the measure for the car that arrived at 9:30. Waiting is rational at that point. The time value decreases as people wait longer.



The other extreme is micro queuing when a gas station across the street is offering gas at a price that is several cents per gallon less than the more convienent gas station.  Filling a fifteen gallon tank at a dime's difference is worth $1.50.  That may be worth to most people a five minute wait, but there are instances of ten to twenty minute long lines forming for that small savings.  Some of this may be economic irrationality, but more of this behavior may be attributed to the stretched budgets of price sensitive consumers who have very low values of their own time and very high comparative values of their cash flow.   





2 comments:

  1. Fester,
    Sorry, but "luck" has nothing to do with this situation, in either the micro or macro climes.
    Another thing that is apparent, and has been since long commutes become fashionable, is that people simply do not value their time that in anyway approximates wage value. Not even close. Many people attach almost no value to their time outside employment. They may negotiate for a $2000/year wage hike for a job they will spend 2500 hours/year working, but think nothing of spending 1000 hours/years sitting in a car going to that job. This attitude (time is free) leads to such bizarre behaviour as sleeping in cars overnight for a tank of gas, spending 3 hours a day commuting, or lining up for days to buy a just-released iPhone.

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  2. Waiting over night is rational if you are out of work. As it is almost necessary to have gas to find work.

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