Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Saturday, May 31, 2008

Where do we go from here?

By Libby



Like BJ, I didn't care about the Rules hearing today either, as much I'm concerned about the fallout. Marc Ambinder is reporting that it's over, the delegations have been seated and Clinton gained 24 delegates. I don't even want to begin to speculate on what it all means, but judging from the initial reactions I'm seeing, I have a bad feeling that they won't be delivering my unity pony tonight.



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  1. MichaelMay 31, 2008 at 3:58 PM

    She could ask the credentials committee to give her four more delegates out of Michigan, and make a reasonable case, but no possible appeal is going to give her enough to win the nomination. Technically, she could try to convince delegates not to vote for Barack Obama including those who have already committed to him, but it wouldn't look good. A graceful concession on July 3 is best.

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  2. MichaelMay 31, 2008 at 4:00 PM

    Erm, I meant June 3. Oops.

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  3. LibbyJune 1, 2008 at 5:08 AM

    Hey Michael. I don't understand why Obama didn't give her the extra four freaking delegates. It would make no difference overall and it would have damped down the bickering a little. This solution only contributes to the dissatisfaction and the disorder.

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  4. MichaelJune 2, 2008 at 7:00 AM

    Libby, I think it was procedural. They took a vote on splitting the delegates down the middle, that won by a close margin but the Obama supporters withdrew it, and then the next thing was the Michigan party proposal with the strange allocation. This passed by a larger margin so they took it.
    If the Clinton supporters would have offered to accept an allocation with four more delegates and the fifty percent penalty, it would have undoubtedly passed, but they were demanding more, I think.

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  5. MichaelJune 2, 2008 at 7:04 AM

    I think the Clinton people could not concede and cannot concede until June 3. And this does give a face saving way to go forward and ask for Hillary Clintons additional delegates to be seated, as a matter of principle, and because it will matter at the convention in terms of platform negotiations, etc. Also, the fifty percent penalty will almost certainly not be maintained throughout the convention, just in the initial seating when the nominee is selected.

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  6. LibbyJune 2, 2008 at 4:27 PM

    I'm just tired of it all Michael. We need a better system but for this round, we just have to work with the metrics everyone agreed on at the beginning so we can get on to bigger issues.

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