Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Thursday, June 5, 2008

Canada and US Deserters

By BJ



U.S. soldiers who fled to Canada to escape the war in Iraq won a symbolic victory in the House of Commons Tuesday when a majority of MPs voted that the deserters should be allowed to stay permanently in the country.

But the motion, put forward by the NDP, is non-binding on the minority Conservative government. Tory MPs voted against the motion but were outnumbered by the three opposition parties in a 137-110 vote.



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Last fall, the Supreme Court of Canada refused to hear the appeal of two men who had lost a bid for refugee status after the Federal Court of Appeal refused to declare the 2003 invasion of Iraq illegal.



Jeremy Hinzman and Brandon Hughey were among the first U.S. soldiers who crossed the border rather than face possible court martial and imprisonment for refusing to serve in a war which they said they morally oppose and is illegal because it was not sanctioned by the United Nations.



Jeffry House, the lawyer for the two Toronto men, has estimated that about 40 Americans have sought refugee status to avoid the Iraq war. Another 150 or so are in Canada but they have not filed refugee claims.



The Federal Court of Appeal ruled that the two men did not deserve refugee status in Canada because they come from a democratic country with an accountable and just system for dealing with deserters.



As noted, this is mostly a symbolic victory as the motion in non-binding, and given the governing Tories all stood against it, there's a pretty good chance they'll ignore it. And as much as I sympathize with the soldiers in question, I would have probably voted against such a motion myself. I obviously agree with them and cheer their refusal to fight in Iraq, but deserting and fleeing to Canada isn't taking a stand. However heavy-handed the recruitment tactics used, these people volunteered to serve in the military. And facing prison and discharge for refusing deployment orders does not make someone a refugee. This just makes it that much easier for the war's supporters to paint them as a bunch of cowards rather than people making a choice based on their conscience.



If you want to see an example of someone refusing deployment to the illegal war in Iraq in a way that makes its nature clear as a stand based on a conscious decision to refuse illegal orders, I would point to the case of Lieutenant Watada. Whatever the ultimate outcome of his case, it makes a far greater point about the legality of the war and the orders supporting it than the guys who slipped across the border.



Now, if the US re-institutes the draft, or starts shooting people for refusing deployment, then we're in different territory. Come on up! You can fight the dog for the couch and I'll help pay for the immigration lawyer.



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