Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Thursday, January 15, 2009

61 Detainees Returning To Terror? No, Pentagon "Making Up Numbers"

By Cernig


I wrote on Wednesday about the Pentagon's claim that 61 Gitmo detainees had "returned to terror" and noted previous Seton Hall Law studies that said the Pentagon was...umm...lying through it's teeth.


Seton Hall now has a new report out examining the evolving claims and hyped allegations entitled Propaganda by the Numbers. The accompanying press release says:



Professor Denbeaux of the Center for Policy & Research has said that the Center has determined that �DOD has issued �recidivism� numbers 43 times, and each time they have been wrong�this last time the most egregiously so.�


Denbeaux stated: �Once again, they�ve failed to identify names, numbers, dates, times, places, or acts upon which their report relies. Every time they have been required to identify the parties, they have been forced to retract their false ID�s and their numbers. They have included people who have never even set foot in Guantanamo �much less were they released from there. They have counted people as �returning to the fight� for having written an Op-ed piece in the New York Times and for having appeared in a documentary exhibited at the Cannes Film Festival. They have revised and retracted their internally conflicting definitions, criteria, and their numbers so often that they have ceased to have any meaning� except as an effort to sway public opinion by painting a false portrait of the supposed dangers of these men.


Fourty-three times they have given numbers�which conflict with each other�all of which are seriously undercut by the DOD statement that �they do not track� former detainees. Rather than making up numbers �willy-nilly� about post release conduct, America might be better served if our government actually kept track of them.�


The study itself notes that  the Pentagon keeps hedging it's bets:



Eighty-two percent (82%) of the publicly made claims catalogued in the Appendix of this report contain qualifying language, including terms such as: �at least�; �somewhere on the order of�; �approximately�; �around�; �just short of�; �we believe�; �estimated�; �roughly�; �more than�; �a couple�; �a few�; �some�; �several�; and �about.�


Why? Because the Department of Defense "does not keep track of released detainees nor does it follow their post release conduct". It makes these claims up from data collected which might show Gitmo detainee involvement but having previously claimed as recidivists men who were never in Gitmo in the first place and someone whose only terrorist act after release was to pen an op-ed for the new York Times it's amazing that the mainstream takes them seriously.


When you really, truly, need a statistic pulled out of someone's ass - call the Pentagon's Geoff Morrell.



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