Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Sunday, April 26, 2009

The Original Sin

Commentary By Ron Beasley


It has been pointed out in many places, including here at Newshoggers, waterboarding has been used from the Spanish inquisition to the Vietnam war not to gather intelligence but false confessions.  Frank Rich explains that how that may well have been it's real purpose when used by the Bush/Cheney cabal.



The report found that Maj. Paul Burney, a United States Army psychiatrist assigned to interrogations in Guant�mo Bay that summer of 2002, told Army investigators of another White House imperative: �A large part of the time we were focused on trying to establish a link between Al Qaeda and Iraq and we were not being successful.� As higher-ups got more �frustrated� at the inability to prove this connection, the major said, �there was more and more pressure to resort to measures� that might produce that intelligence.


In other words, the ticking time bomb was not another potential Qaeda attack on America but the Bush administration�s ticking timetable for selling a war in Iraq; it wanted to pressure Congress to pass a war resolution before the 2002 midterm elections. Bybee�s memo was written the week after the then-secret (and subsequently leaked) �Downing Street memo,� in which the head of British intelligence informed Tony Blair that the Bush White House was so determined to go to war in Iraq that �the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.� A month after Bybee�s memo, on Sept. 8, 2002, Cheney would make his infamous appearance on �Meet the Press,� hyping both Saddam�s W.M.D.s and the �number of contacts over the years� between Al Qaeda and Iraq. If only 9/11 could somehow be pinned on Iraq, the case for war would be a slamdunk.


But there were no links between 9/11 and Iraq, and the White House knew it. Torture may have been the last hope for coercing such bogus �intelligence� from detainees who would be tempted to say anything to stop the waterboarding.


This makes the crime of torture even more heinous.  Torture to get a false confession to justify a war that killed thousands of American soldiers and tens if not hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis.  Sorry Mr Broder, if these crimes are not investigated and and the guilty held accountable the American people will also be just as guilty.  If President Obama truly wants to improve the US standing in the world it will take more than talk about how we won't do it again.  As it stands now the US is in no position to be critical of even the worst of the world regimes.  There is only one way that can change.  And by the way Mr Broder that's not called vengeance it's called justice.



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