Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Monday, June 15, 2009

A Time For The US to keep quiet!

Commentary By Ron Beasley


William Kristol is doing what hegemonist neocons do - demanding that we get involved where US involvement would be counter productive.



But he is our president. We could be at an historical inflection point in Iran. The United States may be able to play an important role. The task now is to explain what the Obama administration (and Congress) should be saying and doing, and to urge them to do what they should be doing. Presuming ahead of time that Obama will fail to exercise leadership, and cataloguing this episode pre-emptively as another in a list of Obama failures, would be a mistake. The U.S. has a huge stake in the possible transformation, or at least reformation, of the Iranian regime. If there's some chance of that happening, and some chance of U.S. policy contributing to that outcome, we should hope Obama does the right thing, and urge and pressure him to do so--because then the United States will be doing the right thing, and the United States, and the world, will benefit.


Yesterday I said this:



So what should the US do?  Nothing at this point.  Any support for the protesters runs the risk of making them appear to be "tools" of America and the west and the west is not much more popular the the Iranian regime.


Spencer Ackerman agrees:



I don't presume that the Iranian opposition speaks with one voice. But what's been very, very striking about following the #iranelection hashtag on Twitter is how few tweets from Iran are calling for U.S. involvement. In my piece today, I report that U.S.-based Iranian human rights activists believe that Obama should speak up for human rights in Iran and say little else, out of fear that greater U.S. involvement will risk delegitmizing the Iranian opposition. Trita Parsi of the National Iranian American Council told me that every non-Iranian needs to be "two steps behind the opposition and not two steps ahead," as the Iranians "have tremendous pride in doing this themselves." One of the accounts from Iran on the Council's new blog urges the U.S. to "not to accept the [electoral] results and do not talk to [Ahmadinejad] government as an official, approved" body. (To Kristol's credit, he notes this.) On the other hand, Twitter user StopAhmadi, whom I believe is an Iranian protester, wrote an hour ago that Obama is being "TOO neutral." So, again, not a single voice.


But an American voice is more likely to be counterproductive than helpful. The cardinal rule ought to be to follow the lead of the Iranian opposition. As I reported, the Obama administration isn't considering endorsing Ahmadinejad's bogus victory, and everyone from Vice President Biden on down says that the U.S. is going to highlight electoral discrepancies. For the U.S. to weigh in on what Iran ought to do can't possibly help. It's time to treat Iran in terms of what aid the opposition, not what makes us feel good about ourselves. "We should not have the U.S. lead," Hadi Ghaemi of the International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran told me over the weekend. That's prime-directive stuff.


As we have seen over the last eight plus years is that everything Kristol and the neocons want to do will only make things worse.  This is no exception.



1 comment:

  1. Exactly the same thought had occurred to me even as I watched Kristol blather on. That man's grasp of history appears to be hanging by only the most tenuous of threads. How many times in the past has the US through the agency of Radio Free Europe and other such propaganda institutions urged dissenters to rise up against their oppressors only to leave them hanging in the wind figuratively and sometimes literally. The Festival of Ignorance never ends.

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