Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Wednesday, June 3, 2009

Lieberman: Israel Won't Bomb Iran

By Steve Hynd


Israel's foreign minister has finally admitted that Israel won't unilaterally attack Iran if Iran ever builds the bomb.



Speaking at the end of a three-day visit to Russia, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said Tehran's nuclear program is the world's problem, not just Israel's, and that its Arab neighbors should be even more concerned about the prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran than Israel is. He said other nations should not expect Israel to solve this problem for them.


"We do not intend to bomb Iran, and nobody will solve their problems with our hands," Lieberman told reporters. "We don't need that. Israel is a strong country, we can protect ourselves.


"But the world should understand that the Iran's entrance into the nuclear club would prompt a whole arms race, a crazy race of unconventional weaponry across the Mideast � that is a threat to the entire world order, a challenge to the whole international community," he said, in Russian. "So we do not want a global problem to be solved with our hands."


I think he just said that while Israel won't attack, someone else should.


But I have to say I've always found the "crazy race of unconventional weaponry" argument utterly unconvincing. After all, Israel has had nukes for decades and its neighbours have spent most of that time feeling more threatened by Tel Aviv than Teheran. So where's the crazy race? We're expected to believe, just 'coz, that Iran's entirely hypothetical nukes are way more scary and destabilizing than Israel's very real ones. I don't see how that works.



1 comment:

  1. Come Steve, be charitable. When someone like Lieberman makes a reasonably rational statement it is a little unfair to suggest he is passing off the putative war to someone else. He'd probably settle for completely debilitating economic sanctions.
    Kidding aside his statement indicates to me that the Obama administration is having a salutary effect at least as far as toning down the rhetoric goes.

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