Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Capabilities and goals

By Dave Anderson:


Matthew Yglesias raises a question about "training and mentoring" and extends it to motivation of the Afghan army and other government aligned security forces.  He senses a disconnect in goal sets that leads to ineffectiveness:



The Taliban is able to raise a military force capable of participating effectively in an Afghan civil war without the support of an advanced foreign military and without a years-long �training� program sponsored by a an outside great power. So why can�t the other side do it....


the fact of the matter is that �wage a civil conflict in Afghanistan� is something that lots of Afghans have experience in. I can�t think of any reason to believe that its something American military officers are more knowledgeable about than are Afghan commanders. We have better weapons and more money than they do. But we can give them guns and money rather than a massive direct deployment of American forces. Recall that we�re currently spending five times Afghanistan�s annual GDP on the war effort, which certainly doesn�t sound like an efficient application of our massive edge in material resources.


Last week, I outlined the US minimal and maximal goal set and how the minimal goal set has been accomplished and the disconnect between the poorly enunciated maximal goal set of the United States and every other interested Afghan actors' goal sets is leading to massive strategic friction:




The US goals in Afghanistan are a bit more complex because they have not been well enunciated for a while. The minimal goal set was the disruption and destruction of "far enemy" camps and operational infrastructure that would support future long distance strikes. That has been achieved. After that the US still thinks it can create a modern, multi-ethnic democracy on the Hindu Kush with centralized power and the effective suppression of the drug trade. Basically the US wants the the Pashtuns to suck on it for the next several generations.


No one else, including the relevant non-Pashtun Afghan actors want the Pashtuns to suck on it for the next several generations as the cost of suppression is way to high when there is plenty of money to be made in smuggling and drug dealing and nothing else. Instead most of the relevant local actors want to start cutting deals and restore the 'normal' environment after a bit of shuffling of who is on top. That is a much simpler, faster and less bloody goal set than the total transformation of Afghanistan's political and cultural norms as well as the suppression of one of the leading groups in the shared (and very weak) Afghan national identity.


We have the capacity in the form of B-52s, TLAMS, and the 75th Ranger Regiment to beat down on formation of "far enemy" training and organizational nodes and camps.  Everything after that is our weighing in on an Afghan civil war in pursuit of goals that none of the other actors involved in that civil war really give a damn about.  They have their own agendas, and if playing the US and ISAF for weapons, supplies, and money is a viable tactic, they will do so in advance of their agenda and goal set, not ours. 



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