Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Friday, August 21, 2009

First Gelb, Now Haass, Critical Of Af/Pak Plans

By Steve Hynd


First, Leslie H. Gelb, the president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, criticised Obama's decision to allow Georgia to send troops to Afghanistan - arguing that the consequences for Russian relations far outeigh the aid 700 troops can provide and saying it "reveals his lack of appreciation for exactly what it takes to accomplish big priorities". As Ben Katcher says, in follow-up:



The Afghan war has the potential to distract the Obama administration from the larger strategic issues of the day in a way that is analogous to Bush's war in Iraq. Just as Iraq opened doors for Iran and aggravated fissures with our European allies, the war in Afghanistan has the potential to raise serious questions about the NATO alliance while complicating our relationships with China, Russia, and Europe.


Then yesterday, it was the president of the CFR, Richard N. Hass, who took a critical tone, arguing that the occupation of Afghanistan is a war of choice, not necessity, and putting forward rational alternatives short of a full-on COIn-based occupation lasting decades.



there are alternatives to current American policy. One would reduce our troops� ground-combat operations and emphasize drone attacks on terrorists, the training of Afghan police officers and soldiers, development aid and diplomacy to fracture the Taliban.


A more radical alternative would withdraw all United States military forces from Afghanistan and center on regional and global counterterrorism efforts and homeland security initiatives to protect ourselves from threats that might emanate from Afghanistan. Under this option, our policy toward Afghanistan would resemble the approach toward Somalia and other countries where governments are unable or unwilling to take on terrorists and the United States eschews military intervention.


It's a refreshing change of tone. Dr. Bernard Finel writes:



Even his �radical� alternative is far from the caricature of abandonment used as a strawman by most advocates of escalation in Afghanistan.


The tide of opinion is definitely turning.



1 comment:

  1. I missed that tidbit about Georgia sending troops to Afghanistan. So what we have is troops from a nation that can barely hold itself together fighting for the US in a nation-building exercise in order to win the good graces of the US in its bid to join NATO. (and they thought that starting a war with the Russians would have been good enough)
    The Obama administration's foreign policy plays are starting to make Clinton (Bill) look like a statesman.

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