Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Thursday, August 6, 2009

Those Old Folks

Commentary By Ron Beasley


The CNN poll yesterday showed that 50% approved of Obama's health care plan while 45% opposed it.  It has been noted that those who already have socialized medicine, Medicare, are opposed to socialized medicine for everyone else. Now it's easy to say this is an I've got mine so screw you issue.  It could also be because many if not most Medicare recipients have supplemental insurance and don't even really realize they have Medicare since they have no contact with the plan.  But I think the Matt Yglesias gets it right- old people don't like Obama.  We are talking about old white people here so race may be an issue but when this group thinks Democrat they still remember the "dirty hippies" 40 years ago.  They still remember the cold war and the godless socialist communists.  They are still believers in American exceptionalism and view capitalism as a religion.


I know this because I have an 86 year old mother who in spite of the fact that she is alive and living in her own house because of those liberal programs like Social Security and Medicare still considers the word liberal to be a perjorative.  And yes she's a bigot.  She dislikes hispanics because the don't speak the "American Language" - at the same time she jokes about her own grandmother who came from Sweden, lived in the US over 40 years and refused to learn English.  She dislikes blacks - I guess it's because they are black because she grew up in Idaho and Eastern Washington and probably never saw any until she moved to Portland in her late teens. 


As Steve Benen points out it's these old white folks the Republicans are using to protect their friends in the health care industry.



Republican leaders and their allies have been reduced to lying to seniors, telling them, among other things, that the federal government might try to kill them if Democrats successfully pass health care reform. After a concerted effort to scare the bejesus out of older Americans, those who enjoy and appreciate government-run health care are expressing their opposition to anything resembling government-run health care.


That these voters are listening to the same GOP leaders who support cutting Medicare and privatizing Social Security is a point that seems to have been lost in the shuffle.


But stepping back, it's also worth noting that Republicans are targeting older voters in part because other age groups are moving away from the GOP. On Election Day, Obama defeated McCain by huge margins among voters under the age of 40; tied McCain with voters 40 to 64; and lost badly among those 65 and older.


Maybe the GOP is looking for a sympathetic constituency, and Medicare-loving seniors offer some glimmer of hope?


And yes, these old white folks are much of what remains of the Republican base.  Gives The Grand Old Party new meaning and would indicate it may not be Grand that much longer.


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At 63 I am one of those old folks and an aging hippie although I was never dirty.



2 comments:

  1. Yeah, me too. And I wasn't dirty either. My parents were the old-fashioned genteel type racists that Gladwell called "Jim Crow liberalism" in his excellent retrospective of Harper Lee's novel in the New Yorker.
    (Highly recommended reading for those with time...
    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/08/10/090810fa_fact_gladwell?printable=true)
    Point of order: Medicare and Medicaid are single payer models, private providers collecting tax money from one source. But the VA and Armed Services Medical Corps are socialized medicine at its best, professionals on salary, from physicians and nurses to lab techs and housekeepers, working in government owned and operated facilities. Both single payer and socialized medicine are carelessly tossed together as "government-run health care."

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  2. "Medicare and Medicaid are single payer models, private providers collecting tax money from one source."
    I know that but the people we are talking about don't. Don't forget, ignorance is a virture in Republican circles.

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