Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Tuesday, August 4, 2009

Unemployment and Relocation

By Fester:


Dave Schuler at the Glittering Eye raises an interesting question regarding unemployment policy --- should benefits be extended or should people start moving to where there is below national average unemployment?  HIs implied argument is a convergence argument, a free and mobile labor market should smooth out differences in local unemployment and this will provide both an individually and socially preferred outcome than extended unemployment payments. 


I think in a smooth, no-transition and transaction cost world, I would agree with him.  However we do not live in that world and the differences are important.  Let us divide the population of people who are out of work into two groups.  The first group are those with minimal attachments and fixed costs.  A friend I recently ran into is an excellent example.  She had just completed law school and sat for the bar last week.  Her lease is up in Pittsburgh and she has some legal piece work that requires a good internet connection and a laptop.  It ill pay her enough to subsist on until the student loan deferment is over.  She currently has no full-time offers.  She is thinking about moving down to Florida, Seattle, San Fran or a couple of other cities where she has friends' couches to crash on until she could find full time work.


The other population of people looking for work have high mobility costs.  For instance they may have bought a house and are breaking even once sales transaction costs are accounted for in the better case; more likely they are underwater.  They have significant family and social networks in the area as well.  Moving is expensive, especially if that move leads to a job with significantly lower wages than the jobs that the individual's domain specific skills would have led them to. 


The first group of individuals are the most mobile.  They are Richard Florida's dream as they are the marginal additions to a regional labor force.  However they are fairly small in the population of pople  who are eligible for unemployment insurance.  Instead the dominant groupof unemployment benefit eligibile people are the individuals with high costs of mobilitiy.  A move likely entails taking a loss on their house in either a short-sale or short-rental for if there is equity available, it likely was tapped to cover the costs of unemployment.  A small movement subsidy will not change the calculations of members of this second group, while it would be a windfall subsidy for members of thse first group. 


This argument holds its strength if one assumes there will benet job growth that is widely distributed  over the next few years. It is much weaker for Detroit where the operating assumption is a massive sectoral shift of employmnet mixtures and levels and where people will be leaving and taking losses to leave anyways. 



2 comments:

  1. "should benefits be extended or should people start moving to where there is below national average unemployment?"
    During the 80's, one of Thatcher's cabinet - Norman Tebbitt, infamously illustrated the rich conservative's empathic distance from the reality of mobility for poor people. He suggested that the unemployed "get on your bikes".
    Regards, Steve

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  2. I can�t argue with your point on the ease of mobility for some people over others, though your housing examples smacks slightly of sunk cost fallacy. I may just be reading it wrong.
    Dave�s argument fails on a more simple level. Simply moving people to other areas doesn�t magically create new jobs. Shift a hundred thousand unemployed people from an area of high unemployment to an area of low unemployment and all you�ve done is cause a shift in their unemployment numbers, unless there are expanding industries in the area that can soak up some of the qualified unemployed from other areas. Can you think of many regions right now where that would be true?
    As the first commenter at Dave�s site noted, the areas with low unemployment are also low in population, which argues against their being on the brink of some boom that just requires a massive influx of labour to get going. In fact, if my experience is any guide, their low unemployment is more likely due to many folks taking your friend�s route of moving to larger centers where the possibility of more specialized employment is far better than in limited population backwaters, even if the overall unemployment rate is higher and a lot of others simply not looking for work any longer since they know very well there is none available in the region. (After all, most unemployment numbers don�t include people not actively looking for work, or who have already been kicked off the unemployment roles.)
    One other point. In cases where there is a booming industry looking for labour, they usually boost their wages and benefits to try and attract labour to move to the area. Alberta's tar sands are a good example of such a phenomena. They also illustrate the downside, which is that such surpluses of disposable income for the employed in the region causes considerable inflationary pressure on the cost of living, which means that if you move there and don't find work, you'll probably wind up in far worse shape than if you had stayed unemployed at home.

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