Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Wednesday, August 19, 2009

When Progressive Bloggers Re-Engage

By Steve Hynd


Matt Yglesias is a clever guy and a great writer on progressive issues. I certainly never would suggest otherwise. But I've upset him with my post yesterday. In an email which is published with his kind permission, Matt writes:



I read your "Netroots Nation and Afghanistan" post and I have to say that I thought it was kind of unfair to me. For one thing, I don't actually have any access to "policy movers and shakers" on the national security front and I never try to develop any such access precisely because I don't want to be co-opted. For another thing, I think that if you read my actual recent writings on Afghanistan (here and here) you'll see that I've been quite critical of what the administration is doing.

I'll admit that the drama of the transition, the stimulus fight, the economic collapse, the ACES battle in the House, and then the health care fight has gotten me pretty distracted from this whole set of issues. Distracted to a fault, I think, I'm trying to resolve to re-engage because I think we're on the edge of making a major mistake.


When the guy is right, he's right. I admit that I'd included him in a list of progressive bloggers who were supportive of the COIN/interventionist school of thought which has so monopolized the reins of Dem foreign policy thinking because of his earlier writings, which certainly gave the administration considerable benefit of the doubt. But his recent writings are far more critical.


At the Daily Beast, Matt writes that:



The nominal reason for [the escalating occupation] is that an ill-governed and anarchic Afghanistan "could" once again become a "safe haven" for al-Qaeda. The trouble, as Marc Lynch, director of the George Washington University Institute for Middle East Studies points out, is that even if "the U.S. succeeded beyond all its wildest expectations, and turned Afghanistan into Nirvana on Earth, an orderly, high GDP nirvana with universal health care and a robust wireless network" then al-Qaeda "could easily migrate to Somalia, to Yemen, deeper into Pakistan, into the Caucasas, into Africa�into a near infinite potential pool of ungoverned or semi-governed spaces with potentially supportive environments."


What's more, it's not at all clear that the presence of an ungoverned or semi-governed space even has anything to do with our exposure to terrorist attacks. The 9/11 attacks were primarily plotted in Hamburg, Germany which is considerably better-governed than Afghanistan is going to be under any foreseeable situation. Other major terrorist attacks in Britain and Spain were plotted and executed entirely in London and Madrid. At the end of the day, to mount a terrorist attack against the West you need to be in the West. You can't hijack airplanes in the Hindu Kush or find a crowded train station in Mogadishu.


And at his own blog he addresses the COINdinistas' "urge to surge" :



...having (allegedly) developed a workable counterinsurgency hammer everything now looks like a nail. Suddenly, counterterrorism goals require counterinsurgency methods because, allegedly, the only way for a country to make itself safe from terrorism is ensure that there are no unstable governments anywhere in the world�or at least anywhere in the world that it�s plausible to imagine the congress funding a massive counterinsurgency campaign. Not a single person from the counterinsurgency community seems to have said �you know what, counterinsurgency is really hard and we shouldn�t embroil ourselves in it on a thin pretext.�


Today, Matt writes that he's resolved to re-engage on the Af/Pak debate. I'm very glad to hear it and I apologize unreservedly for mischaracterising his current position and for any offense I may have caused. The point of my original post was to, hopefully, stir some progressive bloggers to start thinking about Af/Pak again. Hopefully Matt won't be the only one to return to fully being involved with the debate about foreign interventionism.



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