Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Thursday, September 3, 2009

Cash flow, canabis and CBA scopes

By Dave Anderson:


From Reuters:



But Ciudad Juarez�s rising murder rate, currently at about 250 per month, appears to put it well ahead of other notorious world crime capitals such as South Africa�s Cape Town, Moscow, Baghdad, and Papua New Guinea�s capital Port Moresby, according to the Mexican and Foreign Policy studies.


In fact, in Ciudad Juarez during the first day of the conference where the Mexican study was presented, eight people were murdered in the city�s streets, including a prosecutor, a lawyer, two policewomen, a clown performer and a gardener...


Perhaps most worryingly is not that 10,000 troops and elite police stationed there have failed to stop the drug violence, but that local officials say they have everything under control.


I recently spoke with a leading drug market researcher and a former professor of mine who taught the most difficult and enjoyable class I took in grad school. He broke down the illegal drug market into four categories; diverted prescription drugs, specialty drugs/psychedelics, cannabis products and then expensive illicits. The first three categories have comparatively minimal social costs on aggregate; he favors maintaining prohibition on cannabis but recognized reasonably people with slightly different value weights could easily disagree.


His big focus is on the expensive illicit drugs that were further broken down into the uppers (cocaine products/meth) and downers (opiates), with the proviso that opiates are slightly less bad than uppers as maitenance dosing and replacement strategies can work to maintain individual functionality with addicts. He strongly (and convincingly) argued that this fourth class of drugs should be strongly prohibited because the social costs of prohibition, while high, are significantly lower than the social costs of massively increased addiction due to cheaper now licit drug production costs


 The one big question I had in this conversatin was about his modeling assumptions. I was curious about the geographic scope of the cost-benefit analysis. He stated that his modeling assumptions were limited to the US domestic market because the data availability and data reliability for integrating those streams into his model.


I argued in August, 2008 that we should consider the foreign policy costs of prohibition in that it creates a massive pool of black-market economic rents for someone to collect, and the black market delegitimatizes and weakens states in which they dominate --- in this case Mexico.

Traditional heavy sweeps and applying quasi-COIN tactics to Juarez do not seem to have either reduced the level of violence in the city; instead violence is still increasing, nor has it had a demonstrable impact on the availability of expensive illicits, although
cocaine's street price has increased, which implies a drop in total consumption.  


The largest revenue stream for the cartels is marijuana smuggling, so cutting off a significant chunk of cartel cash flow by legalizing or at least decriminalizing canabis in the United States may be a net win in any cost-benefit analysis that incorporates foreign policy costs and benefits as well as domestic social welfare calculations.



3 comments:

  1. "a clown performer .."
    well somethings are necessary to protect the people....
    but I heard some drivel on NPR this morning about the opium crop in Afghanistan and how bad it was bla h blah blah... jeez if that's why we are there we should just let the Taliban take over. their methods had some success.
    I thought.. "what a load of crap" if we would legalise and medicalize opiate addiction here in the states the profits would dry up immed.
    NPR is really getting sucky. even worse then before the election.

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  2. "cannabis" is the preferred spelling

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  3. I recently spoke with a leading drug market researcher and a former professor of mine who taught the most difficult and enjoyable class I took in grad school. He broke down the illegal drug market into four categories; diverted prescription drugs, specialty drugs/psychedelics, cannabis products and then expensive illicits. The first three categories have comparatively minimal social costs on aggregate; he favors maintaining prohibition on cannabis but recognized reasonably people with slightly different value weights could easily disagree.

    You are referring to Jonathan Caulkins here?
    http://blip.tv/file/2537421/

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