Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Friday, September 4, 2009

"The Fourth Afghan War is lost"

By Steve Hynd


American hawks might not realise it, but if they've lost Gerald Warner, self-described "polemical commentator" at the UK's ultra-neocon Daily Telegraph, then they've lost Britain's participation in their Afghan folly as soon as David Cameron sets foot in Ten Downing Street, if not sooner.


Warner writes today:



For us, this is the Fourth Afghan War and it has turned into every bit as much of a resounding success as the previous three. If there is one thing in which the Ministry of Defence and the British public can claim expertise, it is getting cuffed in Afghanistan.


...The significance of Brown turning to the �keep terror off British streets� claptrap is that he realises the previous claptrap, about �building democracy�, has even less plausibility after the spectacle of the Afghan elections rigged by the corrupt Karzai regime. Is that what young Britons are dying for? It is time to up sticks and exit. We know the way � we have travelled it three times before.


There is no-one more traditionally hardline conservative in the British sense than Warner. He's a bombastic, pompous, priviliged, Little Englander of the exact kind who read the Torygraph and who make up the bulk of the UK Conservative Party's most wealthy fundraisers.


Warner joins other conservative establishment stalwarts such as the editors of the Daily Mail, renowned military historian Correlli Barnett, Max Hastings, Peter Hitchings (brother of Chris) as well as leftwing publications like The Guardian and New Statesman in calling for a withdrawal from Afghanistan. Those paleocons, backed by the likes of Heseltine and Rifkin, have far more "pull" in the smoke-filled back rooms and with the "old guard" grandees of the Tory party than the neocon parvenus and Bushite exiles Cameron currently has running his shadow defense and foreign policy portfolios. Most of the British electorate is opposed to a continued presence in Afghanistan and almost two thirds think the war there can never be won. Cameron will be gently steered towards the politically advantageous policy - and Brown may have to scurry to get there first.



1 comment:

  1. when are we going to learn - one would have thought when bush was gone
    amurikans LOVE war - period

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