Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Sunday, September 13, 2009

Is the Hawks' Af/Pak Strategy Changing Again?

By Steve Hynd


Petraeus and McChrystal still want more troops for nation-building in Afghanistan, but there are signs that the Very Serious People are about to change horses midstream again and advocate an Iraq-style papering over the cracks before declaring victory and rushing for the exits. It has become obvious that neither the public nor many Democratic lawmakers support escalation of the eight year occupation, with only the neocons seriously supporting doubling down on an American decades-long presence. So the new plan is to instead concentrate on a rapid increase of Afghan security forces - both police and army - followed by withdrawal.


The Germans like this plan, which in their version envisions withdrawal starting in 2013, and are likely to push it at the summit called by European members of the alliance. The UK will almost certainly agree, since Brown is under severe pressure from both his own Left and the conservative Right to find an exit somehow. John Nagl, president of the neoliberal interventionist mothership - the CNAS think tank which has provided so many of Obama's foreign policy team - likes the plan too. Or at least sees the domestic political advantages of preferring it to troop escalation. And where CNAS leads the Obama administration tends to follow.


You'd think that any shorter timeline to full withdrawal would make an anti-occupation bod like me happy, wouldn't you? "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the possible" and all that political claptrap, right? But no - for one thing, best management practise has always been "if you don't keep asking for exactly what you want, you've no chance of getting it". For another, I'm entirely unconvinced that such a halfway-house plan is any better for either the Afghan people or American interests than a decades long occupation would be.


Essentially, "they will stand up so we can stand down" was the plan in Iraq too, and most accept that the reconciliation that was supposed to follow that surge failed to materialize. Instead, we papered temporarily over Iraq's factional cracks and made a face-saving deal with the strongman of the moment, enabling the U.S. and its allies to head for the exits. Now, violence is on the increase there and the various factions are manouvering for advantage in advance of what they expect to be the next phase of Iraq's multi-sided civil war - Arabs v Kurds, Sunni v Shia, various Shia factions v other Shia etc. Iraqi security forces are heavily factionalised - militias in a national uniform - and can only be expected to make that civil war bloodier still when it comes. That, in turn, will destabilise the entire region to the detrement of American national interest.


Any plan to withdraw under cover of mere numbers of Afghan security forces holds the same danger of simply adding more well-equipped militiamen to an eventual Afghan civil war too, only with bells on. I know it looks better to "do an Iraq" but it isn't really. There would be less havoc, in the long term, from a simple withdrawal, but that won't make the politicians, generals and think-tankers look good - so that's what we won't get.


Update: Col Gian Gentile gets it. He writes that the whole idea we could ever nation-build at gunpoint in Afghanistan is predicated "on the flawed understanding produced by the Iraq Triumph Narrative that underpins current hopes for Astan: It worked in Iraq because we said so, so listen to us, try harder, give us just a bit more, and we can make it work in Afghanistan."


He continues:



The question about the efficacy of nation building in Afghanistan is important for strategy because it is the underlying and supremely powerful belief that we can make it work that continues to push us down the present operational path of population centric Coin that we are on. Sometimes it does seem that �wicked� tactical and operational problems in a place like Afghanistan requires not necessarily more experts and �scary smart� army officers to tackle them, but clear, astute, and resolute thinking about strategy and national interests.


Just like the coherent and logical thought that General (ret) Krulak displayed in his very recent letter to George Will on strategy, national interests, and Afghanistan.


"Papering over the cracks" is a poor compromise and shouldn't be accepted.



5 comments:

  1. Steve,
    This is Vietnam redux. With the exception of a few neocons who are totally divorced from reality the politicians and "very serious people" now realize we can't "win" or even define "win". But we can't simply pack up and leave because that would be a political disaster. So thousands will die and trillions of dollars in treasure will be squandered so they won't lose face and power.
    The more things change the more they don't!

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  2. Hi Steve there is an interesting note over on the Columbia Journalism Review ostensible about Tom Ricks and the effect embedding can have. However there are some details about CNAS but for amusement maybe it mentions Gentile and some of his views on COIN and the manual. What I found amusing was that in Ricks' book Fiasco he painted Gentile as a sort of military saint who maybe had the way to fix the blunders but by the time of Ricks' next book Gamble Gentile had morphed into the devil incarnate and was everything that was wrong in the place. In both instances Ricks was writing about the same and only period he had had contact with Gentile. As I said some mild amusement, maybe. As an aside if you haven't already seen the article and comments, the 6 comment is from a reporter mentioned in the article raising some questions and noting others who also have about CNAS

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  3. Geoff, thank you. That's a must read piece. "When journalists place too much emphasis on how to fight an insurgency, their work can obscure the larger question of whether to fight one." Bingo!
    Regards, Steve

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  4. I didn't get to hear the panel discussion this afternoon but Fareed Zakaria (CNN) opened with his own opinions about Afghanistan that made a lot of sense to me. Here's a link that says about the same thing.
    http://www.newsweek.com/id/215318?from=rss
    "The focus must shift from nation building to dealmaking. The central problem in Afghanistan is that the Pashtuns, who make up 45 percent of the country and almost 100 percent of the Taliban, do not feel empowered. We need to start talking to them, whether they are nominally Taliban or not. Buying, renting, or bribing Pashtun tribes should become the centerpiece of America's stabilization strategy, as it was Britain's when it ruled Afghanistan.
    "Efforts to reach out to the Taliban so far have been limited and halfhearted. ...
    "The dealmaking should extend to the top. U.S. officials should stop trashing Karzai. We have no alternative. Afghanistan needs a Pashtun leader; Karzai is a reasonably supportive one. Let's assume the charges of corruption and vote rigging against him are true. Does anyone really think his successor would be any more honest and efficient? The best strategy would be to see if we can get Karzai to work with his leading opponent, Abdullah Abdullah, in some kind of coalition. The muddied elections actually create an opportunity to build a national-unity government.
    "There are three ways to change security conditions in Afghanistan. First, increase American troops. Second, increase Afghan troops. Third, shrink the number of enemy forces by making them switch sides or lay down their arms. That third strategy is what worked so well in Iraq and urgently needs to be adopted in Afghanistan. A few years from now, we can be sure that Afghanistan will still be poor, corrupt, and dysfunctional. But if we make the right deals, it will be ruled by leaders who keep the country inhospitable to Al Qaeda and terrorist groups like it. That's my definition of success."
    As close to lemonade as you get with this sack of lemons.
    We spent so much money during the Vietnam conflict that we would have been better off paying every man, woman and child in the country to stop fighting and start doing business with America. When the war stopped that's approximately what happened anyway.
    Poppy futures, anyone?

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