Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Friday, September 25, 2009

Kucinich: the public option is dead, always was.

By Steve Hynd


My old pal Michael tedesco, founder of the Comments From Left Field blog, was involved in a conference call Tuesday between Rep. Dennis Kucinish and the Canadian membership of Democrats Abroad. What he heard on that call may shock you, or it might not. Kucinich was adamant that the Blue Dogs were doing exactly what the White House and health insurance industries wanted, that the so-called Public Option was always a red herring, and that it would be perhaps 8-10 years before the U.S. would have anything resembling single-payer.


Michael writes today:



In answer after answer to each question posed by the group he hammered home two distinct messages. 1) In this congress the public option is dead and 2) a public option will eventually prevail but it will be a decade long struggle.


When questioned about whether the blue-dog Democrats were in effect siding with the Republicans and/or the health care industry Kucinich said,



�It�s my opinion that the blue dogs are doing exactly what the white house wants them to do. The public option was a trial balloon. I can not stress how cynical and brutal the politics are. This is not about the public option. Anyone looking for the public option needs to look someplace else. It is not going to happen and anybody who says it is is in fantasy land.�


When asked about what can be done for American health care reform Kucinich took the position of  man with a deeper understanding of the true struggle,



�We have to take a long term perspective on this. 8-10 years down the road. This is a civil rights movement we have here. I think we are going to have single payer in the states one day. Unfortunately there are going to be many people who get sick, go broke and die before we get there.�


What Kucinich was doing was resetting expectations and delivering a hard message to the majority of Americans that support a public option today.


He was saying do not expect a public option any time soon. Whatever might get through this congress masquerading as a public option will not be worth much. And if a public option is ever to pass on a national level it will likely come only after a groundswell of grassroots effort. Reset your clocks for a long term fight.


Kucinich also charged that �In 2000 I tried to bring a bill and was asked by the head of the Gore campaign not to bring it because of the funding they were receiving [from the health care industry]."



1 comment:

  1. I guess this is one of those bad news/ good news items. Hate to say it, but it strikes me as both credible and pragmatic. If true, the finished product may well have the appearance (if not the reality) of bipartisanship. And if true, the question becomes: Which do Republicans hate more, a Democrat effort that succeeds with the Democrat brand alone or one in which Republicans claim part of the credit?

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