Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Sunday, October 11, 2009

Levin Was For Timelines Before He Was Against Them

By Steve Hynd


This is what a partisan shill looks like. Carl Levin (D-Mitch) today:



I think it would be a mistake for us to do anything other than to look for ways to succeed in Afghanistan. And there's a legitimate debate going on as to how do we succeed in Afghanistan. And that's what we ought to focus on. Setting a timeline, I don't think would be the right thing.


Carl Levin on the Senate Floor, 07-17-07:



Forcing the political leaders of Iraq to accept responsibility for their nation and to work out the political settlements which are preventing this violence from ending is the only source of hope in Iraq ...


...If there is any hope of forcing the Iraqi political leaders to take responsibility for their own country and to keep the commitments which they made to meet political benchmarks that they set and to make the compromises that only they can make, it is to have a timetable to begin reducing American forces and to redeploy those forces to a more limited support mission instead of being everybody's target in the middle of a civil war.


We need to send the clear message to the Iraqi leaders that we will not be in Iraq indefinitely and that we will not be their security blanket forever.


That is what the bipartisan Levin-Reed amendment would do, if we�re allowed to vote on it. Our amendment would require the President to begin reducing the number of American troops in Iraq within four months after enactment. It would require transitioning the mission of our remaining military forces to force protection, training of Iraqi Security Forces, and targeted counterterrorism missions. Our amendment would require that the transition to those limited missions be completed by April 30, 2008. Finally and importantly, it would call for a comprehensive diplomatic, political and economic strategy, including sustained engagement with Iraq�s neighbors and seeking the appointment of an international mediator under the auspices of the UN Security Council to try to bring stability to Iraq.


Let me also be clear about what we are not proposing. We do not seek a precipitous withdrawal or precipitous reduction of U.S. forces in Iraq. We do not believe that the war in Iraq has been lost - although we believe that policies which are not succeeding need to be changed if there is any chance of success. We do not believe that the Iraqis are incapable of achieving the political compromises that are necessary for reconciliation. But we do believe that they will delay doing so until we begin to reduce and transition our forces in Iraq to prod the Iraqis to make those compromises.


And yet after eight years of promised progress and in the aftermath of an incredibly corrupt election which has highlighted the utter lack of Afghan reconcilliation, everything Levin said of Iraq in 2007 is now true of Afghanistan and his plan for a timetabled drawdown looks awfully like that of un-hawkish Afghan experts like Rory Stewart.


The difference is that now a Democratic president would bear any domestic fallout from that timetabled drawdown.


For shame, Senator.



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