Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Wednesday, October 7, 2009

More About Israeli Nukes

Commentary By Ron Beasley



A few days ago I asked But What About The Israeli Nukes?

It's probably the worst kept secret in the world - Israel's nuclear arsenal.  It's the original "don't ask don't tell" policy.





Now I don't know is Tom Engelhardt reads Newshoggers but he sure picks up the meme.



'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Middle Eastern-Style

And you thought "don't ask, don't tell" was a U.S. law on gays in the military that Barack Obama has promised to change. As it turns out, the same phrase plays quite a different role in the Middle East, where Obama seems to have no intention of changing it at all. Successive administrations have adhered to a "don't ask, don't tell" policy when it comes to Israel's sizeable arsenal of nuclear weapons. That country has never acknowledged their existence, adhering instead to another arcane formula: "We will not introduce nuclear weapons into the Middle East." Jonathan Schell has described this strange situation: "Evidently, in some abstruse way, possessing [nuclear weapons] is not introducing them. You'd have to do something more to introduce them. You'd have to brandish one or make a threat with one, or maybe just acknowledge that you had them. As long as they keep them in the basement and don't make any introductions, then it's alright.



In May, the Obama administration evidently agreed not to break step with the fictions of previous administrations by acknowledging, or attempting to force Israel to publicly acknowledge, its estimated 100-200 nuclear weapons, including city-busters and cruise missiles adapted to be nuclear-armed and put on subs in the Mediterranean. His administration seems also to have agreed not to pressure the Israelis to sign the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) under which nuclear arms are theoretically managed on our planet.





The Israelis believe the rules the rest of the world follows don't apply to them and the US has gone along with the nuke charade.  But is that about to change?  The Zionists at the WSJ think so.

When American diplomats sat down for the first in a series of
face-to-face talks with their Iranian counterparts last October in
Geneva, few would have predicted that what began as a negotiation over
Tehran's nuclear programs would wind up in a stunning demand by the
Security Council that Israel give up its atomic weapons.

Yet that's just what the U.N. body did this morning, in a resolution
that was as striking for the way member states voted as it was for its
substance. All 10 nonpermanent members voted for the resolution, along
with permanent members Russia, China and the United Kingdom. France and
the United States abstained. By U.N. rules, that means the resolution
passes.



The U.S. abstention is sending shock waves through the international
community, which has long been accustomed to the U.S. acting as
Israel's de facto protector on the Council. It also appears to reverse
a decades-old understanding between Washington and Tel Aviv that the
U.S. would acquiesce in Israel's nuclear arsenal as long as that
arsenal remained undeclared. The Jewish state is believed to possess as
many as 200 weapons.



Tehran reacted positively to the U.S. abstention. "For a long time
we have said about Mr. Obama that we see change but no improvement,"
said Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki. "Now we can say there
has been an improvement."





And what does the resolution demand? That Israel should play be the same rules we are demanding of Iran.

The resolution calls for a nuclear weapons-free zone in the Middle
East. It also demands that Israel sign the 1970 Nuclear
Nonproliferation Treaty and submit its nuclear facilities to
international inspection. Two similar, albeit nonbinding, resolutions
were approved last September by the International Atomic Energy Agency
in Vienna.





As it should be.



Update:



Here is another example of Israel not thinking the rules apply to them.



Deep Denial
Why the Holocaust Still Matters

The Goldstone Report goes further than Ahmadinejad and the Holocaust deniers by stripping the Jews not only of the ability and the need but of the right to defend themselves. If a country can be pummeled by thousands of rockets and still not be justified in protecting its inhabitants, then at issue is not the methods by which that country survives but whether it can survive at all. But more insidiously, the report does not only hamstring Israel; it portrays the Jews as the deliberate murderers of innocents�as Nazis. And a Nazi state not only lacks the need and right to defend itself; it must rather be destroyed.

Matt Yglesias explains what's wrong with this.

Needless to say, the Goldstone Report just doesn�t say anything remotely like this.

The specifics of the outrageous slander involved here aside, the
doctrine Oren seems to be trying to put forward is the idea that if a
state is attacked then anything the state does in the way of a
defensive response is legitimate. This just isn�t what international
humanitarian law says or ever has said.
I think the post-9/11 invasion
of Afghanistan easily fit the bill as self-defense. But that fact
itself doesn�t immunize the United States against the charge of war
crimes.


2 comments:

  1. It took Fintan O�Toole, The Irish Times�s resident philosopher � in - chief, to speak the unspeakable. �When does the mandate of victimhood expire?� he asked. �At what point does the Nazi genocide of Europe�s Jews cease to excuse the state of Israel from the demands of international law and of common humanity?�

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  2. Is everybody missing the bleedin' obvious here? America is forbidden by its OWN laws from giving any ODA to a country with nuclear weapons. Sounds reasonable, no? If they can afford ballistic nuclear devices then they don't need lunch money either. But Israel bleeds $3+ Billion in gelt from the US taxpayer every year. So what to do?? Flick to page one of the American foreign policy handbook, of course! Here it is... "Plausible Deniability". Just keep that legal fiction going and Israel can have its (yellow) cake and eat it every year. The only free lunch in town.
    Follow-The-Money is the mantra that leads to most solutions.

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