Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Sunday, October 18, 2009

Report: White House Says Afghan "True Partners" A Condition For Troop Increase Decision

By Steve Hynd


It looks like the neo-whatever interventionist crowd might wait a long while for their troop escalation.



The White House has said that it will take no decision on sending more troops to Afghanistan until it determines the new government is a "true partner".

White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel told CNN TV it would be "reckless" to take such a decision without a thorough analysis of the new government.


... Speaking to CNN, Mr Emanuel said the US would want first to be sure that the government was capable of becoming a "true partner" able to govern the country.


"It would be reckless to make a decision on US troop level if, in fact, you haven't done a thorough analysis of whether, in fact, there's an Afghan partner ready to fill that space that the US troops would create and become a true partner in governing the Afghan country," he said.


Which is exactly what Senator John Kerry said yesterday, as Abdullah supporters said they'd bever accept a Karzai government as legitimate.


And now today comes a report that the Karzai-loyal Independent Electoral Commission (IEC) is actively trying to block any statement of election results from the UN's Election Complaints Commission (ECC) as Karzai's supporters reject any result they don't like too.



"The IEC is trying to pick holes in every conceivable calculation and detail to try and hold things up," said one official with knowledge of the discussions.


As thousands of Karzai's supporters took to the streets in Kandahar province to denounce "foreign meddling" in the election result, IEC officials admitted they were looking into legal challenges to the ECC's decision.


A rejection of the ECC ruling would dramatically escalate the political crisis in Kabul and western powers have spent the last few days frantically pushing Karzai, who is thought to control the IEC, to accept the final outcome.


On Saturday, US senator John Kerry had a late-night meeting with Karzai, but members of the president's entourage indicated that the Afghan leader remains opposed to a second round.


Yesterday , Karzai's spokesman, Waheed Omar, said there was "political interference by outsiders" in the fraud investigation.


"We are certain that if the technical process is followed through correctly Mr Karzai will receive more than 50% of the vote," he said.


The White House might wait forever for those "true partners" to show up - and deferring any troop increase indefinitely in such circumstances would be the right thing to do.



2 comments:

  1. As you know, Steve, I oppose additional troops in Afghanistan (because I'm skeptical about the counter-insurgency strategy). However, the particular statement you cite above struck me as incoherent. The missing link seems to be an alternative strategy.
    Either there are objectives in Afghanistan that are in our national interest or there aren't. If there are such objectives, they shouldn't be held hostage to a possibly unachievably good Afghan government.
    President Obama ran for office for two years, a substantial component of his platform being that there were such objectives.
    If there are such objectives, what is the strategy for achieving them? We don't seem to have one. If there are no such objectives, then either President Obama's judgement on foreign policy is suspect or his motives making those objectives part of his campaign are suspect.

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  2. I hear you, Dave, but the point is that any troop escalation would be for COIN ops and COIN cannot work without a legitimate host government - which we're about as likley to get now as a pony.
    So whatever alternate strategy is developed, it doesn't need more troops. Probably it needs less, to reduce the appearance of being an occupying power, a major driver of the insurgency.
    Regards, Steve

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