Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Uk Government Tells Court Torture Evidence Must Be Held In Secret

By Steve Hynd


The Guardian reports on the latest bit of legal dancing from the British government in the Binyam Mohammed case and others:



Any evidence of MI5 and MI6 involvement in the rendition and torture of Britons now seeking damages must be heard behind closed doors, the government told the high court today.


In a move with profound implications for how the security and intelligence agencies can be held to account, ministers want the evidence to be withheld from the victims of illegal activities and their lawyers.


It is the first time the government has asked the courts to rule that evidence should be kept secret in a civil case involving claims for damages. "I entirely accept [it] is a departure" from the normal course of such litigation, Jonathan Crow QC, for the agencies, the Home Office, the Foreign Office and the attorney general, told Mr Justice Silber.


He said that although such a "closed" procedure had never before been adopted in a civil claim for damages, there was no reason in principle why it should not be used if it was necessary for what he called "the just disposal of the case".


Her Majesty's Government, in a move of awe-inspiring piss-taking, has suggested that cases involving industrial "trade secrets" are a precedent for this move. The snark writes itself.



Lawyers for the seven claimants accuse the government of adopting an "extreme and unprecedented" position. They say it is trying to bypass the normal procedure of "public interest immunity certificates", a well-tried practice whereby the government asks for a gagging order but the final say is with the judge.


Of course it is. Without parliamentary approval, the government is trying to change the ground rules so that these "trade secrets" of torture and rendition never get fully exposed to the light - perhaps because, like the Bush administration, too many senior officials have blood on their hands themselves.



3 comments:

  1. Love your work Steve. Can you point me in the direction of some non-Guardian blogs or outlets closer to this issue?

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  2. Hi williamt, and thank you. For further information on these matters, look no further than my pal Andy Worthington, the go-to man on all matters related to the US and UK torture coverups.
    http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/
    Regards, Steve

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  3. ...awe-inspiring piss-taking...
    Wonderful turn of words. Wish I'd said that.
    How easy it is to get entangled with definitions and "legal dancing" (another good image - you're hot today, Steve) by way of distracting from the main points, which in this case is obfuscating two principles crying out for bright lines: What is or is not torture? And whether or not victims of official turpitude can access exculpatory evidence?
    Dredd Blogg points to a contradiction of which I was unaware, that waterboarding was officially illegal in the Reagan era.
    "[Cheney] and his cronies, like Rush Limbaugh, are talking about how Ronald Reagan is their mentor, as they try to justify the federal crime of torture.
    Ronald Reagan would have been their jailer, not their mentor."

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