Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Big Uncle Knows Best

by Eric Martin


Colonel Gian Gentile, the antidote to the epidemic of irrational exuberance invested in the ability of counterinsurgency doctrine (COIN) to solve any insoluble military/political conundrum, offers yet another reality check:



History shows that occupation by foreign armies with the intent of changing occupied societies does not work and ends up costing considerable blood and treasure.


The notion that if only an army gets a few more troops, with different and better generals, then within a few years it can defeat a multi-faceted insurgency set in the middle of civil war, is not supported by an honest reading of history.


Algeria, Vietnam and Iraq show this to be the case. Regrettably we don�t seem to be learning anything from history with regard to Afghanistan. We are making the same blunders.


When I was a combat battalion commander in West Baghdad in 2006, I asked an Iraqi Army general how long it would be before the civil war ended in Iraq. �Four hundred years,� was his answer.


It took the United States almost a hundred years to end its most divisive political and social issue, slavery, and it required a cataclysmic civil war. Could an outside force have come into the United States in the 1850s and resolved its internal conflicts at the barrel of a gun?


So why do we think we have ended Iraq�s civil war at the barrel of a gun over the past two years � or that we can do it in Afghanistan? 


There are myriad good reasons why outside powers have such a hard time prevailing in another country's civil war.  That number of reasons is multiplied when the outside power is geographically removed and has little cultural understanding or connection to the underlying country and its people.  Ultimately, the interests, traditions and patience of the indigenous people are more determinative of outcomes than the fleeting ambitions, grand designs and enthusiasm of would-be foreign conflict shapers.  As many Afghan insurgents are fond of pointing out, "You have the watches, we have the time."  They have more than that: they also know the place first hand.


A hint at the difficulties we're encountering is revealed by the concern on the part of so many observers that if we significantly reduced our troop presence (or withdrew altogether), the conglomerate of insurgent factions lumped together under the misleading label "Taliban" would soon take over the country (this would apparently be true even if we kept up aid, and possible air support, for the Karzai government faction). 


Let's assume for the sake of argument that this is how events would in fact play out.  Consider what that says about the relative popularity/support of the various warring factions.  In essence, the Afghan people are so uninterested in fighting for the cobbled together, massively corrupt, alien-seeming government formed under our watch that the government faction would soon collapse without its foreign patrons (and army) around to prop it up.  Even aid from afar would be insufficient to overcome its lack of dedicated local support.


Worse still from our perspective, a widespread conversion of Afghan hearts and minds seems unlikely in the near future.  This is evidenced by our continuously stymied efforts to field a motivated and committed army and police force. Those efforts suffer from the same apathy and disinterest as our attempts to rally the population around the political body of the Karzai regime.  Fundamentally, we are having difficulty motivating the Afghan people to fight the war that we want them to fight, for the causes and factions that we want them to champion.  They have different notions about what is, and isn't, worth fighting for. 


Which is predictable given that foreign powers with little cultural and geographical connection to a target country can rarely manufacture enough enthusiasm for its foreign-imposed faction/concepts to prevail in a civil war - or a multi-faceted civil war/insurgency hybrid. Basically, the Afghan people don't view their conflicts and culture through an American-lens.  The allure of democracy, whiskey, sexy only goes so far when there are more pressing needs such as food, livelihood, cultural values, security and, generally, staying aliveSteve Coll touched on an aspect of this phenomenon in a recent piece:



Since the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, in 1979, attempts by foreign powers to shape events there have repeatedly been thwarted by what intelligence analysts call �mirror imaging,� which is the tendency of decision-makers in one country to judge counterparts in another through the prism of their own language and politics. The Politburo, for example, engaged in energetic debates about the extent to which Afghanistan might conform to the stages of revolutionary development contemplated in Marxist-Leninist theory.


As the Obama war cabinet now debates its choices, American discourse barely refers to Afghan leaders by name or to the particular equations of the country�s diverse provinces. Instead, historical analogies and abstract concepts from political-theory texts abound�arguments about �legitimacy� and �governance,� as if the Taliban were motivated primarily by the �Rights of Man.� Obama and his advisers might profitably consult the Democratic Party�s own book of rules, specifically an entry composed by a peaceable boss from Massachusetts: All politics is local. In the case of Afghanistan, there is a corollary: All local progress, or failure, will be political. 


Adding: All local progress, or failure, will be political and determined by the locals.  Even if we think we know better.  The best we can do is help the locals to set up their own political framework for addressing these conflicts, and then get out of the way.



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