Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Monday, November 30, 2009

Distribution and "Good Policy"

By Dave Anderson:



Brad DeLong asks why good long-term macro policy is not politically popular. I think the answer is one of the distribution of visible and discrete benefits versus the visible and discrete costs. He asserts the following:


  • From the day after the collapse of Lehman Brothers, the policies followed by the U.S. Treasury and the U.S. Federal Reserve and the U.S. administrations have been very helpful. They have been good ones.



  • The fact that investment bankers did not go bankrupt last December and are profiting immensely this year is a side issue.....In that scale and context the bonuses of Goldman Sachs are rounding error. And any attempt to make investment bankers suffer more last fall and winter would have put the entire support operation at risk: as Federal Reserve Vice Chair Don Kohn said, ensuring that a few thousands investment bankers receive their just financial punishment is a non-starter when attempts to do so put the jobs of millions of Americans--and tens of millions outside the United States--at risk.



  • The big valid complaints about policy over the past fourteen months are not that it has run up the national debt and not that it has rewarded the princes of Wall Street, but rather that it has, if anything, been on too small a scale--that we ought to have done more.



    Yet these policies appear, somehow, to be political losers in Washington right now: nobody is proposing to do more along the same lines. This is strange: usually when something works the natural impulse is to do it again.




    So we have a big puzzle: Just what is going on in America? Good policies that are working to boost production and employment without causing inflation ought to be politically popular, right?




    I think there are a couple of things going on here. The first is that the policies are being conflated in the American electorate's mind between TARP and everything the Federal Reserve is doing and ARRA. The second is that these policies are mitigating the suckitude; the objective economic conditions still suck donkey balls. People may be seeing the second derivative of unemployment turn positive but jobs are scarce, benefits are getting destroyed, pay is flat and nothing seems to be working correctly, including or especially Congress and the US government. Some of the last is a deliberate electoral and political decision by the Republican Party, but a decent chunk of that is the inability of the Democrats with massive majorities to get anything worthwhile done. Credit card reform was done this summer --- so what, the interest rates on my credit cards got jacked up, health reform is a mess, bankers are making billions in the pre-exisiting hostage taking situation, and food stamp usage is on the rise.



    People at not particularly good at rationally analyzing the macro-economic counter-factual. When there are illions of dollars in the discussion, eyes can easily glaze over and people can take to rational ignorance or at least bounded rationality and outsource their economic forecasting to the nerds who actually do that for fun. Instead they look around, see illions spent and note that the last couple days of the month are still tight or increasingly tighter. They see another big wave of foreclosures coming. They see loan modification programs not working. They see cramdown getting killed. Every other ad on the radio is for a debt relief firm. They see a major employer go out of business in their town.



    Finally, the people who seem to be benefiting from the stimulus, the Wall Street bankers, are about as popular as syphillis right now. Everyone else is in pain, the the bankers ar partying hard again. What Brad terms good economic policies may be good in the aggregate, but distribution matters. I do not earn money directly related to GDP growth. At best that is a third order concern for my personal well-being. My major concern is finding a job, and there are no jobs. Instead the benefits of TARP (which people are rationally conflating with ARRA) are concentrated to the same idiots who got us into this mess, and there has been no structural change. Even if these measures produce GDP growth, GDP growth has done jack-shit for most people over the past generation; wages have stagnated, debt has increased, risk has increased and variability has increased. If that is the result of "good policy" I can understand why "good policy" is not politically popular --- it does not have a wide base of supporters in the electorate past the large donor class.

    1 comment:

    1. Well, that and he's just wrong. The policies were bad ones. They were better than doing nothing, but that's not saying much. The stimulus was very badly put together and had about 1/4th the impact a properly put together (not brilliant, just competent) bill would have. The Feds actions did not restart lending which is what they were sold as doing, so that actually failed.
      Etc...
      Just... wrong.

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