Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Monday, December 7, 2009

Pro Life?

Commentary By Ron Beasley



As we have all noticed the pro life crowd is only pro life before you are born or when you are brain dead.  Well David Kurtz watched a Fox News host Alisyn Camerota do a gotcha on a pro life hypocrite.

The host was Alisyn Camerota, and she was doing a panel on health
care reform where Bob Beckel was playing the liberal going up against
Kate Obenshain of the conservative Young America's Foundation.



The discussion turned to abortion restrictions in the health care
reform bill, and of course Obenshain is opposed to any federal funds
going to abortions, even indirectly via insurance policies subsidized
by federal dollars.



At which point Camerota asks her, "If there is no federal money used
to subsidize abortions for low-income women, doesn't that mean there
will be more low-income babies, and do any of these amendments talk
about the health care for them then?"



Obenshain sort of does a double take and stumbles through an answer
to the question. She is clearly put off her game, or confused, or maybe
horrified. I was mostly confused. But the more I ponder it, the more I
wonder if I shouldn't just be horrified.



It was as if the Fox host were trying to play devil's advocate and
in her mind the counterargument to opposing federal funding for
abortions is that you'll end up having more low-income babies whose
health care will cost the federal government even more than the
abortions would.



Does that sort of crude cost-benefit analysis enter into anyone's
thinking when supporting federal funding for abortions? Who thinks this
way? Is that a reflection of how the Fox host views the "pro-abortion"
position? Or how she views the budget hawk position?





You can watch it here:





I don't know if was intentional but it took a FOX News host to point out the hypocrisy of the right wing pro lifers.  And yes, I loved watching her squirm.



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