Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Sunday, December 13, 2009

To the Hague

By Dave Anderson:

That is where Tony Blair should be going anyways for a trial on the crime of waging aggressive war.  He indicts himself this morning as the LA Times reports:

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has said he would have found a
justification for invading Iraq even without the now-discredited
evidence that Saddam Hussein was trying to produce weapons of mass
destruction.

"I would still have thought it right to remove him.
I mean, obviously you would have had to use and deploy different
arguments about the nature of the threat," Blair told the BBC in an
interview to be broadcast this morning.

There is a thin but straight faced argument for the WMD threat that I don't accept as valid, but I can see where there is a reasonable defense that in the light of 9-11 previously acceptable risks and uncertainty were no longer acceptable.  And from that premise, coercive diplomacy to get inspectors back in to reduce the uncertainty or to confirm the risk made sense.  This argument falls apart by mid-January 2003 when the inspectors were coming back to the UN with bupkis behind minor bureaucratic screw-ups and marginal violations at most.  Anyone with a serious attempt to make this argument should have flipped their opinion from supporting the war or at least the threat of war to opposing the invasion of Iraq; it was not a threat to the United States or the United Kingdom or any other nation. 

The policy was fixed for whatever motives (Blair seems to be going towards a combination of Friedmanesque "suck on this" and neo-conservatism's attempt to democratize at the point of a tank barrel justifications") and the policy was aggressive war against a nation that posed no justifiable threat. 

To the Hague he should go in a just world.  Instead, he is still a shell of a Very Serious Person who may ocassionally have to be careful in his travel itinerary



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