Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Tuesday, December 1, 2009

WH: Obama to send 30,000 troops, start withdrawal in 2011

By Gregg Carlstrom


Note: No analysis here, just reporting what the White House said; curious to hear what you folks think in comments.


Barack Obama will announce a temporary surge of 30,000 troops into Afghanistan during his West Point speech tonight, two White House officials said today on a conference call with reporters.


The call was conducted "on background," which means reporters aren't allowed to disclose the names of the officials. (I find this hugely frustrating, trust me, especially since neither said anything controversial - but those are the rules.)


The 30,000 troops will be added over the next six months, with a goal of finishing the surge by summer 2010, according to one of the officials. They will join roughly 68,000 American troops already deployed to Afghanistan. Many of them will be deployed in the south and east and tasked with securing population centers.


The White House then plans to start withdrawing troops in July of 2011, officials said. But they emphasized that the 2011 date will represent the start, not the end, of the drawdown, and they said Obama's speech will not outline the "pace, or the end date," of the withdrawal. That leaves Obama a lot of wiggle room: The withdrawal will be linked to goals, like the training of the Afghan army, and Obama will not set an ultimate end date for the war.


"The strategy that the president outlines will accelerate handing over security responsibilities to Afghan forces... but he will not go into detail about the pace," one official said.


The Defense Department is still deciding exactly which troops to deploy; one of the administration officials on today's call said the deployment will probably include two or three combat brigades, and another "brigade-size element" devoted to training the Afghan army. Roughly 90,000 Afghan soldiers have already been trained; the White House hopes to increase that number to 134,000 in 2010. But the administration is retreating from any long-term goals on the size of the Afghan army. Previous reports had suggested an eventual target of 400,000 troops; one official on today's call said those long-term goals "don't have much weight."


Both officials explicitly endorsed the idea of using local or tribal militias to provide security in Afghanistan.


"We're experimenting with a number of models for how we can link the traditional security structures of Afghan culture to the central government in Kabul," one official said.


The official also said that the Afghan army is "broadly representative" of the population, except in the south, where the official acknowledged that the army is "unbalanced."


Obama will also spend time tonight discussing the civilian strategy in Afghanistan, the officials said. He will identify agriculture as the top U.S. priority in Afghanistan, and stress the need for a "bottom-up approach" to development in the country - whatever that means.



2 comments:

  1. A fast surge that even so will come at the end of what McChrystal said was the crucial 12 months, no real metrics, no actual end date, pinning their hopes on tribal militias - it's a clusterf**k of Bushian proportions. And there doesn't seem to be any Plan B.
    Regards, Steve

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  2. I'm going to have to agree with Steve, this is just ridiculous. Tribal militias? Great idea... if you also believe starting another civil war in Afghanistan is a good idea as well. And how exactly do they plan on training that many competent ANA in such quick time? The ANA forces currently in service are so inadequate that I have no idea how they plan to both expand their forces and train them all sufficiently in such little time. This just reads like one gigantic train wreck.

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