Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Tuesday, May 25, 2010

Linking Iran and North Korea through Chinese influence

By Dave Anderson:



The United States and China are the two major external powers with vested interests on the Korean peninsula.  However, those vested interests only have a small intersecting set of commonality of managing the decline of North Korea.  Complete chaos is in no one's interests. These areas of commonality are limited, and other forces are also at play.  Let me quote a portion of the Nelson Report:

With the US already using maximum leverage on China to keep it on board for the UN/Iran nuclear standoff, how far China will be willing to accommodate the US and S. Korea on N. Korea, a country of genuine strategic concern to Beijing, is the cause of pessimism amongst most analysts.

The US has little leverage to use on China besides a naked appeal to Chinese self-interest in not having a bloody war on their eastern border, potential nuclear fall-out issues, large scale refugee flows, restrictions on Yellow Sea maritime trade patterns due to submarine and mining activity, and eventually a US ally sitting on the opposite bank of the Yalu River. 

Countering this appeal is the argument that the current situation in Iran has already exhausted the political capital of the Chinese elites who favor "responsible" engagement with the world or at least an acceptance of an American sphere of interest in the Middle East which China can not effectively challenge (yet) and that these consequences are either low probability events or acceptable even if they occur.  

The Korean crisis is slowly escalating.  South Korea's president has dramatically curtailed trade and has ordered a series of military readiness exercises.  North Korean merchant and fishing ships will be intercepted and boarded if they are in South Korean claimed waters.  Most importantly, he is calling for regime change in the language of humanitarianism.  Regime preservation is a massive motivating factor for the North Korean leadership and elites, so this is a massive red flag and escalation of rhetoric.  The Nelson Report (via the Agonist) has the relevant passage:



Nothing has changed over the last sixty years. It is a country still holding onto an empty ambition of forcefully reuniting the Korean Peninsula under the banner of communism. It is a country that still believes in making threats and committing terrorist activities. North Korea's goal is to instigate division and conflict.

For what reason and for whom is it doing what it does?
As compatriots, I am truly ashamed.
It is now time for the North Korean regime to change.
Today, no country can maintain peace and make economic development on its own. It is imperative to conduct exchanges and cooperate with the world and to join the path that everyone else is taking. It is time to look at reality and make that courageous decision. It is time for the North Korean regime to start thinking about what is truly good for the regime itself and its people.








The rhetoric of regime change, humanitarian or otherwise is a massive escalation. North Korea has a history of successfully over-reacting and over-escalating as a deterrent against sanctions and punishments short of war. Given the tensions on the Korean peninsula, mutual over-reactions or a tit for tat retaliation cycle could lead to a very violent and bloody incident short of full-scale war or full-scale war.  That is not in the interests of the United States, South Korea, Japan or China.

With this rhetorical escalation potentially leading to military escalation, China's ability and willingness to pressure North Korea is one of the keys to preventing large scale military actions from occurring.  However this creates a linkage between Iran and North Korea where a secondary Chinese interest in Iran but a primary US interest in the Iranian nuclear program may be traded off in favor of peacefully resolving the slowly boiling Korean crisis.  



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