Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Sunday, June 27, 2010

War and politics

By Dave Anderson:


At the highest level, war is a political decision.  It is a decision to use the resources of the state to achieve certain (desirable) objectives. 


The decision to use the resources of the state is not an absolute decision, it is a continuous decision.  For instance, the United States decided to commit the entire resources of the nation to defeat Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in World War Two because the American political elite made the decision that the stakes were high enough to justify those costs.  Those resources included full war-time mobilization of the economy and population as well as developping and using nuclear weapons.  On the other hand, the United States government made the decision to not use nuclear weapons or embark on a full-scale mobilization of all resources for US interventions/small wars in Lebanon in 1983 or Kosovo in 1999.  The stakes were not high enough for those costs. 


The decision to invade Iraq was a political decision.  The decision to use a light-foot print force and believe the utopian predictions that Shock and Awe would deprive all Iraqis of agency and agendas so that the light force could go in, install a pliant exile leaer and get in time for a victory brigade in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade was also a political decision.  The American leadership and elites believed (correctly) that they could get popular support for a short, cheap or slightly profitable, victorious war while they could not get popular support for a war that would have the direct costs of over a trillion dollars, indirect costs of several trillion dollars, several thousand American dead, hundreds of thousands of dead or displaced Iraqis and more expensive oil.  The decision to embark upon a Surge strategy that failed in its stated objectives was also a political decision.


War is a political decision and resource allocation at the strategic level is a political decision.  Adding more resources, including time is a political decision.  Limiting resources is also a political decision.  


John McCain is an idiot if he does not realize this, as he ran his campaign for the Presidency based on his political support for more war:


Sen. John McCain blasted President Barack Obama's stated goal of beginning troop withdrawal from Afghanistan in July 2011, saying Obama made a "political decision" not based on military strategy.





Committing another trillion or two dollars in Afghanistan is a political decision. Commiting half a trillion dollars and getting out before the heat death of the universe is also a political decision. All decisions at the strategic level of war are in part political decisions.

5 comments:

  1. The only question is why would anyone still listen to that senile grumpy old man. As much as he's on the TV you would think he won in 2008 instead of getting trounced.

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  2. I saw a clip of McCain this morning and shuddered.
    Whatever disappointments may come from Barack Obama, the McCain-Palin alternative would have been catastrophically worse.

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  3. What we need to hope is that Obama does not pursue the campaign in Afghanistan in the way Johnson pursued the campagign in Vietnam - not enough to win, but enough to keep the right wing at bay - with the result that we don't "win" the war, but thousands die needlessly.

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  4. McCain was obviously absent the day they did Clausewitz at Annapolis.
    Regards, Steve

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  5. I may still be looking through rose-colored glasses, but my feeling during the campaign was that Obama's saber rattling was exactly what you suggest, something to keep the right wing at bay. Somehow, though, his attempts at war-mongering rhetoric never rang true for me. It seemed (and still does) so contrary to the rest of his persona.
    When an economic collapse occurred just weeks before he was to take office, and the specter of protracted unemployment and economic instability loomed like a Category 4 Gulf hurricane, the notion of messing with the Defense Department mission and budget became unthinkable.
    From the outset of this travesty we call a volunteer military I have considered it more a national employment scheme more than any real defense requirement. Why else would Congress insist on larding the budget when the Pentagon itself says they don't need so much stuff?
    When and if the economy passes the still possible double-dip recession stage then and only then do I expect anything defense related to come under review. If all those troops and ancillary civilian contractors (a real budget multiplier if ever there was one) were not on the clock, where would an already lame economy be then?
    And they say spending and borrowing ain't good for "stimulus." Ha! Yeah, right.

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