Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Tuesday, July 27, 2010

A Certainty Of Denial, To Be Followed By Some Chance Of Sheep

By Steve Hynd


This is an update to my post yesterday about the latest incident involving mass civilian casualties in Afghanistan. I spoke too soon - it has been suggested the locals may be lying.



Government spokesman Siamak Herawi said 52 people, many women and children, were killed by a NATO-rocket attack on Friday in Sangin, Helmand province, but the NATO-led force said a preliminary investigation had not yet revealed any civilian casualties.


...Karzai strongly condemned the attack and asked NATO troops to prioritize the protection of civilians in their military campaign, his office said in a statement citing the same casualty figures for the attack.


ISAF, however, insisted that a joint investigation with the Afghan government had so far found no evidence of civilian deaths, while a provincial official suggested local residents could even have made it up.


"The villagers took the joint team to a graveyard in Rigi village and they claimed that 35 people were buried there, but the graves seemed to be old," said Dawood Ahmadi, a spokesman for the provincial governor, referring to the village where the incident is supposed to have taken place.


"The team have not found any evidence to show that the civilians were killed," he said. "They may have been lying but we are there to find out."


There are various compensation packages for civilians caught up in the fighting, but ISAF has reported many cases of wrongful claims.


An ISAF spokeswoman said the team was still in the area, trying to establish the truth.


"We take any civilian casualty very seriously but there was no report of operational activity in Rigi," said Lt. Cmdr. Katie Kendrick.


Now first, "Dawood Ahmadi, a spokesman for the provincial governor" is the same guy who happily repeated his boss's paranoid allegations about Italian doctors being hitmen for hire a while back. His boss Gulab Mangal, the Helmand governor, is a lunatic who is aware that sycophantic pandering to the US military is the only way he keeps his job and is to say the least not the most reliable partner for such an investigation.


Secondly, a BBC reporter who went to the village spoke to eyewitnesses who say they lost close relatives.



Witnesses said the attack had come in daylight as dozens sheltered from fighting in nearby Joshani.


Mohammed Khan, a boy aged about 16, said helicopters had circled over the village before the incident. He said that he had warned other children to take cover.


But his mother told him not to worry them. He went further away and was shielded by a wall that saved his life when the attack started.


"I heard the sound of the rocket land on our house. I rushed in screaming with my father and saw bodies lying in the dust� I found I was even standing on a dead body."


One of the bodies was his brother.


"He had been lying asleep in the afternoon when they were killed," Mohammed said.


How difficult can it be to check whether this guy had a brother and now doesn't?


So we're back to the old pattern. investigate, deny, be surprised by independent evidence, admit and apologise. Sometimes with added sheep. It has happened too many times already and despite promises to do better it keeps happening.



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