Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Thursday, July 15, 2010

Afghanistan, Europe and CIA Propaganda

Commentary By Ron Beasley



As Steve noted below 58% of Americans think Afghanistan is a lost cause and 60% think we should start withdrawing troops next August even if the country is unstable.  I'm sure those numbers will only rise.  I found this interesting confidential CIA document over at WikiLeaks. It appears the CIA is worried about public opinion in Europe.



Afghanistan: Sustaining West European Support for the NATO-led
Mission�Why Counting on Apathy Might Not Be Enough


The fall of the Dutch Government over its troop commitment to Afghanistan
demonstrates the fragility of European support for the NATO-led ISAF mission.
Some NATO states, notably France and Germany, have counted on public
apathy about Afghanistan to increase their contributions to the mission, but
indifference might turn into active hostility if spring and summer fighting
results in an upsurge in military or Afghan civilian casualties and if a Dutchstyle
debate spills over into other states contributing troops. The Red Cell
invited a CIA expert on strategic communication and analysts following public
opinion at the State Department�s Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) to
consider information approaches that might better link the Afghan mission to
the priorities of French, German, and other Western European publics.





The people of France and Germany are opposed to their counties participation in NATO misadventure they really don't care about it that much so leaders in those countries can simply ignore public opinion.



If some forecasts of a bloody summer in Afghanistan come to pass, passive French and
German dislike of their troop presence could turn into active and politically potent hostility. The tone of previous debate suggests that a spike in French or German casualties or in Afghan civilian casualties could become a tipping point in converting passive opposition into active calls for immediate withdrawal. (C//NF)



French and German commitments to NATO are a safeguard against a precipitous departure, but leaders fearing a backlash ahead of spring regional elections might become unwilling to pay a political price for increasing troop levels or extending deployments. If domestic politics forces the Dutch to depart, politicians elsewhere might cite a precedent for �listening to the voters.� French and German leaders have over the past two years taken steps to preempt an upsurge of opposition but their vulnerability may be higher now...





If the rest of NATO pulls out it will make it even more difficult for the US government to ignore the voters so can the war be re branded in Europe to minimize the backlash?



French Focused On Civilians and Refugees. Focusing on a message that ISAF benefits
Afghan civilians and citing examples of concrete gains could limit and perhaps even reverse
opposition to the mission. Such tailored messages could tap into acute French concern for
civilians and refugees. Those who support ISAF in INR surveys from fall 2009 most
frequently cited their perception that the mission helps Afghan civilians, while opponents
most commonly argued that the mission hurts civilians. Contradicting the �ISAF does more
harm than good� perception is clearly important, particularly for France�s Muslim minority:




  • Highlighting Afghans� broad support for ISAF could underscore the mission�s
    positive impact on civilians. About two-thirds of Afghans support the presence of
    ISAF forces in Afghanistan, according to a reliable ABC/BBC/ADR poll conducted in
    December 2009. According to INR polling in fall 2009, those French and German
    respondents who believed that the Afghan people oppose ISAF�48 percent and 52
    percent, respectively�were more likely than others to oppose participation in the
    mission.

  • Conversely, messaging that dramatizes the potential adverse consequences of an
    ISAF defeat for Afghan civilians could leverage French (and other European) guilt
    for abandoning them. The prospect of the Taliban rolling back hard-won progress
    on girls� education could provoke French indignation, become a rallying point for
    France�s largely secular public, and give voters a reason to support a good and
    necessary cause despite casualties.

  • The media controversy generated by Paris�s decision to expel 12 Afghan refugees in
    late 2009 suggests that stories about the plight of Afghan refugees are likely to
    resonate with French audiences. The French government has already made
    combating Afghan human trafficking networks a priority and would probably
    support an information campaign that a NATO defeat in Afghanistan could
    precipitate a refugee crisis.


Germans Worried About Price And Principle Of ISAF Mission. German opponents of
ISAF worry that a war in Afghanistan is a waste of resources, not a German problem, and
objectionable in principle, judging from an INR poll in the fall of 2009. Some German
opposition to ISAF might be muted by proof of progress on the ground, warnings about the
potential consequences for Germany of a defeat, and reassurances that Germany is a
valued partner in a necessary NATO-led mission.



  • Underscoring the contradiction between German pessimism about ISAF and Afghan
    optimism about the mission�s progress could challenge skeptics� assertions that the
    mission is a waste of resources. The same ABC/BBC/ADR poll revealed that 70
    percent of Afghans thought their country was heading in the right direction and
    would improve in 2010, while a 2009 GMF poll showed that about the same
    proportion of German respondents were pessimistic about ever stabilizing
    Afghanistan.

  • Messages that dramatize the consequences of a NATO defeat for specific German
    interests could counter the widely held perception that Afghanistan is not
    Germany�s problem. For example, messages that illustrate how a defeat in
    Afghanistan could heighten Germany�s exposure to terrorism, opium, and refugees
    might help to make the war more salient to skeptics.

  • Emphasis on the mission�s multilateral and humanitarian aspects could help ease
    Germans� concerns about waging any kind of war while appealing to their desire to
    support multilateral efforts. Despite their allergy to armed conflict, Germans were
    willing to break precedent and use force in the Balkans in the 1990s to show
    commitment to their NATO allies. German respondents cited helping their allies as
    one of the most compelling reasons for supporting ISAF, according to an INR poll in
    the fall of 2009.





It's not often we get a behind the scenes look at a propaganda campaign.



1 comment:

  1. >> "...60% think we should start withdrawing troops next August even if the country is unstable."
    Begin withdrawing from Afghanistan next August??
    I took Steve's link, and actually read the poll. Those who were polled were not given the option of agreeing that the US should withdraw from Afghanistan NOW.

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