Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Is Elliot Abrams wrong to bet on Dems being douchebags?

By Steve Hynd


Elliot Abrams, Bush-era warmonger, writes that we shouldn't bet against Obama attacking Iran in the next two years.


One reason he gives is all about America's sense of exceptionalism.



the real issue in the Middle East today is whether we, the United States, will remain "top country" in the region or will allow Iran to claim some form of hegemony.


Funny that Abrams should be appealing to that exceptionalism while he and others of his neocon ilk also argue elsewhere that Obama doesn't believe in it. But Greg Scoblete has the factually correct answer to Abram's here:



Wars have frequently been waged for balance-of-power concerns, but in this case, how significant would the balance of power shift out of America's favor? Pakistan has nuclear weapons and is not the top country on the subcontinent - it can barely curtail its own home grown insurgency and it was threatened/cajoled by the U.S. to allow us to bomb portions of the country almost at will. North Korea has nuclear weapons and you'd be laughed out of a room if you suggested they had anything resembling "hegemony" in Asia.


Iran with a crude nuclear weapon would still be poor, weak and surrounded by unfriendly states. The U.S., by contrast, would not be.


Then, I think Abrams loses it completely.



The political side of all this is equally plain. Obama will, by all accounts, suffer a tremendous setback in November and may well be defeated in 2012. Should Iran acquire the Bomb in the next two years -- the timetable Jeffrey suggests -- Republicans will have an even stronger case that Obama has weakened our national security. The Obama who had struck Iran and destroyed its nuclear program would be a far stronger candidate, and perhaps an unbeatable one. Now, from my perspective that is no reason to stop Iran's nuclear program, but I'm a Republican. It's inevitable that as Iran creeps closer to the Bomb and Obama creeps closer to defeat, Democrats -- above all, the ones in the White House -- will start wondering exactly why striking that nuclear program is such a terrible idea. They'll start re-examining the likely Iranian reactions (they don't really want a war with us, do they? Regime survival and all that?), the down-sides of an Israeli strike (hey, we're the leaders of the free world, after all), the military challenge (well, the Air Force isn't very busy, and it's just a few sites to hit). They will of course not tell themselves this re-assessment is related to politics; they will persuade themselves they are doing what's right for the security of our country. Watch.


Huh? Starting wars to gain votes by banging the patriot drum is what Republicans do, dude! You must remember - you were there!


Abrams is telling us far more about the considerations that went into attacking Iraq in 2003 than about possible Democratic deliberations for 2012, I think.


But I could be wrong. What do you think?


Update: One friend emails saying "You're definitely right about where he completely loses it -- he's delusional if he thinks he can get Democrats to start salivating over the imagined electoral benefits of attacking Iran. There's something very creepy about him even trying to dangle that."


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1 comment:

  1. As many Newshoggers here have pointed out, Obama's Afghanistan policy only makes sense in political terms. He's clearly cynical enough to kill people for the sake of his career.
    And he wouldn't be the first Democrat to help generate a crisis for political gain. Here's James H Rowe, adviser to Truman, on the benefits of a hard line against the Soviets:
    There is considerable political advantage to the Administration in its battle with the Kremlin... The nation is already united behind the President on this issue. The worse matters get, up to a fairly certain point � real danger of imminent war � the more is there a sense of crisis. In times of crisis the American citizen tends to back up his President.
    Kennedy played the same game with his phony "missile gap." So yeah, they have no moral objection to such a strategy. The only question is whether it truly does make political sense.

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