Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Saturday, August 14, 2010

Obama Takes a Clear Position on a New Mosque in Manhattan

By John Ballard



The president joins the mayor of New York and an absolute minority of Americans by speaking in defense of the construction of a new mosque and community center a few blocks from where the World Trade Center was destroyed.



I join that minority in solid agreement with a sincere hope that public opinion will for once be changed by courageous leadership like this.







Here is the You Tube description of this video.

While celebrating Ramadan with Muslims at the White House, President Obama says that while we need to be sensitive about the events of 9/11, there is no reason the government should stop Muslims from building a Mosque in lower Manhattan on private property. Doing so would violate the First Amendment.




I watched once again Mayor Bloomberg's courageous statement and wondered if yet another New York mayor might be another candidate for a run to become president. Unpopular as his position may be there is already a Facebook page along that line
Muslims don't come close to Latinos in numbers but as the Obama presidency has shown those who ignore minorities do so at some political peril. The president just gathered yet another minority population into his basket.







Mayor�s Stance on Muslim Center Has Deep Roots by Michael Barbard (NY Times) should be read in full.



Michael R. Bloomberg is a former Wall Street mogul with a passion for the rights of a private property owner. He is a Jew whose parents asked their Christian lawyer to buy a house and then sell it back to them to hide their identity in an unwelcoming Massachusetts suburb. And he is a politician who regards his independence as his greatest virtue.







Mr. Bloomberg�s forcefulness has won him new admirers, but also a chorus of both familiar and fresh detractors. Reliable newspaper editorial allies have turned against him. Conservative pundits have mocked him (one called him �self-deluding�). Even some of his closest friends have angrily differed with him.



City Hall officials, who said the mayor had been swamped with angry correspondence, made some of it public.




�You are going to allow the Muslims build a trophy building there on HOLY GROUND,� one e-mail read. It concluded: �You need to be impeached.�




But none of the anger � hard to measure precisely, and amplified by talk radio and cable television � has moved the mayor. Indeed, interviews with his aides, advisers and associates suggest that it has only strengthened his resolve.




And they say the reasons are civic and personal. Mr. Bloomberg, for instance, has come to know the husband and wife who are among the principals behind the proposed center � a multipurpose religious and cultural institution that would be built two blocks from the site of the World Trade Center.





Then there is  that now famous letter from George Washington to the Jewish community of Newport Rhode Island. Link here to a more detailed description of that letter and the circumstances it addressed.

In a famous letter�the one that holds that the United States �gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens��George Washington offered a benediction:

May the children of the stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants, while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and fig tree and there shall be none to make him afraid.


Lower Manhattan is a little short on vines and fig trees nowadays, though there are some excellent wine bars. Washington�s point remains. His letter was addressed to the Jews of Newport, Rhode Island. But, as he knew, Muslims are Abraham�s children, too. By the McCain standard, [read the opening of the New Yorker column] George Washington was a three-time loser: as President, he lived in New York City; the nation�s capital bears his name; and, even by the standards of his time, he was an �tist. Nevertheless: he was right.




5 comments:

  1. What does it say about the nation that its a big deal that a sitting President is backing a core first amendment right?
    Regards, Steve

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  2. Pretty sad, huh?
    Best one-liners so far:
    "He lobbed a damn hand grenade into the far right�s green zone...The man might not be able to throw a baseball worth a damn. But his constitutional grenade tossing is very good.

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  3. And now the quibbling begins. NYT:
    President Obama said on Saturday that in defending the right of Muslims to build a community center and mosque near Ground Zero he �was not commenting� on �the wisdom� of that particular project, but rather trying to uphold the broader principle that government should treat �everyone equal, regardless� of religion.
    Regards, Steve

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  4. There was that brief moment when there seemed like there was someone inside that suit.

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