Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Friday, September 17, 2010

Forcing The Taliban To The Table

By Steve Hynd


Unless you're one of the dumber-than-mud fighting keyboardists who insist that all terrorists are cockroaches (and you don't negotiate with cockroaches), you'll have noticed that everyone from General David Petraeus on up has said that there will be no purely military solution in Afghanistan, that reintegration and reconciliation for the Taliban is the only thing that can bring lasting peace there. You'll have also noticed the conventional wisdom that the Taliban say they are too successful to negotiate right now - that the US military's troop Surge(tm) escalation will have to pound on them a while before they're ready to come to the negotiating table. (Which begs the question of what the US military was doing for the previous eight years if not trying to pound on the Taliban until they were a bit more submissive, but nevermind.)


However, Robert Naiman has an interesting and mostly convincing post today in which he claims that the Obama administration hasn't exactly been rushing to the negotiating table either - missing an opportunity to put the Taliban leadership on the spot in a way that would help de-legitimize them in Afghanistan's South. He has a couple of suggestions for action rather than empty rhetoric:



What currently feasible - they could be done this week - Administration policies would be consistent with making national political reconciliation a priority? Here are three.


1. The Obama Administration could signal its willingness to agree to a timetable for the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Afghanistan - similar to the agreement we now have with Iraq - as part of a peace deal.


There are many ways to signal. It doesn't have to be a formal announcement. A "senior Administration official" could tell a reporter that the Obama Administration is considering this. The British could say it, and the Obama Administration could ostentatiously say nothing. A senior Democratic Senator perceived to be close to the Administration on foreign policy could say it, and the Obama Administration could ostentatiously say nothing.


Obviously, a key objective of the insurgency is to drive foreign forces out of the country. By sending this signal, the Obama Administration would be saying, "You want us out? Fine. Negotiate with us, and we will leave faster."


Note that "the US should establish a timetable for military withdrawal" is already the position of the majority of Americans and 60% of the House Democratic Caucus. So by signaling its willingness to establish a timetable for full military withdrawal as part of a peace deal, the Obama Administration would simply be suggesting its willingness to agree as part of a negotiation to do that which a majority of Americans already want the U.S. to do even if there is no negotiation.

2. The Obama Administration could signal that it is willing to end "night raids" in Afghanistan if serious negotiations commence. Night raids - which indiscriminately kill civilians and violate the sanctity of the Afghan home - are arguably the policy of the U.S. military occupation most hated by Afghan public opinion and the Afghan government, which has long called for them to end, so offering to end them would be a powerful incentive to promote talks.


3. The Obama Administration could signal that it is willing to "downsize and eventually end military operations in southern Afghanistan" - as called for by the Afghanistan Study Group - to promote negotiations.


Naiman's certainly correct that such proposals would put pressure on the Taliban leadership's rhetoric that they see no need to negotiate while they're winning.



Negotiations surface issues: you have to say what you want, and what you are willing to accept. Right now, no-one, not even a U.S. government official, can clearly articulate what the U.S. really wants in Afghanistan, and what the U.S. is willing to accept. What exactly the Taliban want, or are willing to accept, besides driving out foreign forces, has also been the subject of fierce debate.


The Taliban would be forced to respond somehow or be subject to internal pressures towards factionalization - we already know some Taliban leaders are more amenable to dealmaking than others, because Pakistan's ISI arrested Baradur to stop him making a deal without them - and external pressures from supporters among the populace who are simply tired of all war all the time. As Naiman writes "when true positions begin to be revealed, they become the subject of political debate and political pressure".


I wrote a long time ago that, eventually, you have to talk to terrorists if you want to end the terror war. But first, someone has to be willing to actually start the conversation. That seems to me likely to be more successful in bringing the Taliban to the table for serious purposes than any number of whack-a-mole offensives.



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