Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Monday, September 27, 2010

"This is the way you end insurgencies"

By Steve Hynd


The New York Times headline is an interesting break from the run-of-the-mill: "Petraeus Says Taliban Have Reached Out to Karzai". Notice the direction of the reaching out, and who is revealing it.



�There are very high-level Taliban leaders who have sought to reach out to the highest levels of the Afghan government, and they have done that,� General Petraeus said.


�Now President Karzai�s conditions are very clear, very established, and, certainly, we support them as we did in Iraq, as the British did in Northern Ireland,� he said. �This is the way you end insurgencies.�


A spokesman for President Karzai confirmed that there had been contacts at every level, but he cautioned that they still could not be characterized as even the beginning of negotiations.


�In the last few months, there have been signs and signals from different levels of Afghan Taliban,� said Waheed Omer, the spokesman.


�There are signs that they are ready for talks, and this intensified after the president announced the program of reintegration and reconciliation after the peace jirga,� he said, referring to a June peace assembly, adding, �but no formal negotiations or discussions have begun.�



Bingo!


There are going to be some - probably including Petraeus - who will argue that the Afghan Surge beat back the Taliban's ascending momentum and brought them to the negotiating table. The argument is laughable. There is no even slight "progress" in Afghanistan and if anyone was reluctant to come to the table - from word one - it was the U.S. under two administrations, not the Taliban. If anything, the Surge has been spun to save enough face that the U.S. and it's Western allies can now allow negotiations to proceed without looking like complete losers.


The signs have been there for a couple of years now that Karzai was simply tired of all the bloodshed and would make just about any deal if the fighting might end. Now, it seems that either the Taliban feel the same way too - after all, they also are Afghans - or they feel the US will finally do a deal of some kind. The basic preconditions for talks are there. It's early days yet, probably with several more years of NATO occupation of at least of part of Afghanistan to come and as Bernard Finel says, most of the issues of procedure and preconditions have yet to be resolved. But that's because most cannot be resolved without attempting to sit down and seeing how it all goes.


Looking forward to when talks do finally begin, the key players - outwith the Afghan government, US and Taliban - will be Pakistan and India, with China and Iran slightly more marginal, Russia and the rest of Afghanistan's near neighbours essentially getting what the central players decide. The likeliest regional spoiler is India - will it accept some form of return to the status quo ante bellum where Pakistan has some form of "strategic space" in Afghanistan through its sponsorship of the Taliban? What's going to be in it for India?


As for Petraeus: well, he's the general who took a demotion to rescue Afghanistan after his minion got canned, the man who will doubtless preside over at least a few more years of 130,000+ troops in-country (the argument will be that they're needed for security while talks play out, so no meaningful drawdown, folks) and he'll be front-and-center at negotiations no matter who else is involved. The Teflon General's career for the win! Whatever he decides to do after that, he'll get it.


But still, Petraeus' continuing messiahdom will probably be a small price to pay for this actual real, live light at the end of the tunnel...unless he decides to be president and figures he can do it all again in some other poor nation, of course.



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