Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Tuesday, October 26, 2010

Gorby on Afghanistan: Victory is Impossible

By Steve Hynd


The man who withdrew his nation's troops from Afghanistan, Mikhail Gorbachev, is pessimistic about America's adventure there, telling the BBC that a US victory "is impossible there". He added that the mess is, to a great extent, America's own fault.



"We had hoped America would abide by the agreement that we reached that Afghanistan should be a neutral, democratic country, that would have good relations with its neighbours and with both the US and the USSR.


"The Americans always said they supported this, but at the same time they were training militants - the same ones who today are terrorising Afghanistan and more and more of Pakistan," Mr Gorbachev said.


Because of this, it would be more difficult for the US to get out of the situation.


"But what's the alternative - another Vietnam? Sending in half-a-million troops? That wouldn't work."


The best that Nato could hope to achieve, he said, was to help the country get back on its feet and rebuild itself after the war.



That's not a nation-building exercize Gorby is advocating - it's simply paying for our breakages and getting the f*** out of the store. Analysts like Marvin Weinbaum at Georgetown and Caroline Wadhams at C.A.P. tell us that the warlords of the former Northern Alliance are now re-arming for the next stage of Afghanistan's civil war and that the Afghan security forces will likely fracture into partisan militias as soon as that next stage kicks off - which will depend on Pakistan, Karzai and the Taliban, not America's presence or lack of it. Getting out before we find ourselves refereeing that next war would be a damn good idea.



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