Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Monday, October 4, 2010

No Favor For War With Iran, Poll Finds

By Steve Hynd


Thanks to Matt Duss at Wonk Room for bringing this 60 Minutes/Vamity Fair poll to our attention:


VF-Iran-poll-2 


As Matt writes:



It�s an oddly phrased question, but one which nevertheless indicates pretty strongly that Americans are not in favor of a U.S. war with Iran. I suspect that those who are in favor of a war with Iran understand this, which is why they like to talk exclusively about �air strikes,� �military strikes,� or my favorite, �surgical strikes.�


Last month�s Chicago Council on Global Affairs poll showed that Americans �were about evenly divided� on the question of whether the U.S. should undertake �military strikes� on Iran as a last resort, after diplomatic and sanctions efforts to halt Iran�s nuclear program had been exhausted. It would be interesting to see how those numbers change if �military strikes� was changed to �war.�


Because war is what it would be. The idea that the U.S. or Israel will deal with the problem through a few days or weeks of air strikes should be put to rest. Given the suspected extent of Iran�s secret nuclear program, and how they are believed to be dispersed around the country and buried in hardened facilities, it will be very difficult to ascertain at what point the program has been sufficiently degraded.


The negative consequences of strikes on Iran, on the other hand, will probably become pretty clear very quickly, as virtually every study conducted on the scenario has indicated.



The American public have gotten used to the idea that "war" is about drone strikes in far-off nations that don't really affect them and about which they don't care enough to even know the basic geography. An attack on Iran would not be that kind of war. It's not Afghanistan and it's not even Iraq. Matt's right: those who are "now pushing the U.S. toward another disastrous military intervention in the Middle East shouldn�t be allowed to pretend otherwise."



1 comment:

  1. Negative consequences! The global economy is one shock away from collapse. That collapse could well come us a result of an oil price hike and shortages because Iran closes the Straits of Hormuz.

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