Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Thursday, October 7, 2010

The Tenth Year In Afghanistan

By Steve Hynd


Today is the anniversary of the invasion of Afghanistan. Welcome to the tenth year of occupation.


Afghanistan became a nine year war under an exceptionalist, colonial interpretation of the Pottery Barn Rule - we broke it, so we get to fix it - that allows Americans to ask questions like "should Afghanistan exist?" without even a hint of wondering whether that's really Afghans' question to answer.


Whatever happened to the real Pottery Barn Rule? The one that went, implcitly: "You broke it, you pay for it and get the f**k out of our store."


Well, the neoconservatives of the right had dreams of shaking up the world that involved "exporting democracy" at gunpoint and the neoliberals of the left had dreams of "humanitarian intervention" at gunpoint that both floundered on the same rock - the locals don't like having guns pointed at them. Go figure. However, their shared dream of intervention via the magic of counterinsurgency - inevitably colonialist, with all the negatives that entails, even as it was supposed to rescue two failed foreign interventions - has meant that for the last nine years we have spent thousands of lives and trillions of dollars trying to apply the first version of that Rule - at gunpoint - rather than observing the second.


Denial of this basic fact allows interventionists to argue, with a straight face, that "disaffection" with the current state of the Afghanistan misadventure is "fundamentally rooted in a lack of knowledge". I'd love to see Adam Weinstein of MoJo say that to Giles Dorronsoro's face!


Adam would do better to listen to Daniel Drezner:



"I think what this has been a referendum on is statebuilding," he told me. But maybe that's a good thing, he added: "We've proven we're not terribly good at it."



We've proven terribly bad at it because we've ignored the real Pottery Barn Rule. The worry should not be that the U.S. will become "full-on isolationist, rejecting even the most pressing of future interventions for human rights or security". The worry should be that the U.S. will remain inclined towards magical thinking that encourages interventionsim even in cases where the national interest is at best marginal - or where, like Iraq, the national interest is entirely made up.


In this tenth year of occupation, it's time we remembered that rule.



1 comment:

  1. Bush/Cheney couldn't leave Afghanistan after not getting Bin Laden, even if they would have wanted to and despite the fact that their real target was Iraq, because any additional terrorist attack by any Bin Laden franchise or by attackers linked to Afghanistan would have cost them the presidency.
    Obama doesn't seem to think he has a solution for that issue either, even though the personification of the problem by Bin Laden may be fading.

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