Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Tuesday, November 2, 2010

France And Britain's "New Chapter" On Defense Co-operation

By Steve Hynd


Wow, what changes being broke can force in lifestyles - even at the level of international defense.


The BBC reports on new defense treaties between France and the U.K.:



The nuclear treaty will establish a centre in the UK to develop testing technology and another one in France to carry out the testing. Warheads will be tested by technical means to ensure their safety and effectiveness, without having to test them by explosion.


The other treaty will allow the setting up of a "combined joint expeditionary force", thought to involve a brigade of about 5,000 soldiers from each side, which will operate under one military commander to be chosen at the time.


The UK and France have also agreed to keep at least one aircraft carrier at sea between them at any one time. Each will be able to use the other's carrier in some form, certainly for training and possibly operations.


Mr Sarkozy described the agreement as "unprecedented". He said the treaties would deliver "a truly integrated aircraft carrier group" but dismissed suggestion that they would infringe on either country's sovereignty.


The two leaders faced questions about what would happen if one country backed a military operation and the other did not. Mr Cameron said there would have to be "political agreement" for the joint taskforce to be deployed.


Mr Sarkozy said it would be unlikely that Britain would face a crisis so great that it needed an aircraft carrier without France being affected: "If you, my British friends, have to face a major crisis, could you imagine France simply sitting there, its arms crossed, saying that it's none of our business?"



Gallic indifference has been all too easy to imagine in the past. France didn't join the U.K. in responding to Argentina's takeover of the Falkland Islands - instead, Argentinian planes used French Exocet anti-shipping missiles - nor did it send any troops to Iraq, described as a major crisis by the British P.M. of the time, Tony Blair (even though it wasn't). British ambitions and willingness to blindly follow U.S. policy have certainly changed since 2003, and perhaps Sarkozy's implicit promise to get Britain's back signals a new French determination on that account - but it's surely significant that the U.K. is committing what will be, after the Defense Review takes effect, its entire out-of-area deployable land force to these treaties while France is committing only one fifth of its own. It's pretty clear who is in the driving seat on defense in Europe nowadays.


The NY Times quotes Sabine Syfuss-Arnaud, an editor at the economic magazine Challenges in Paris:



�The most cynical observers in Paris stress that, if London hadn�t been trapped by a monumental deficit, this rapprochement would perhaps not have taken place,� Ms. Syfuss-Arnaud wrote.



While that's probably true, these new treaties point towards important changes in Europe's defense structure. Sarkozy is leading the way now, and his preferences seem to be for a more integrated European defense force which would, contra some French fears, begin to sideline the existing NATO structure in time. By signing these treaties, he's made it very much easier for Britain, traditionally the spoiler in attempts to form a truly intergrated EDF, to climb onboard. He has also made it easier for the U.K. to say "Non" to any future American out-of-area adventurism, by simply claiming that their new French treaty-partners might not agree to use of their assets by Britain on such an adventure.


P.S. Just a thought, but there's no doubt in my mind that these treaties are the biggest change to Western defense structures since the formation of NATO post-WW2. Even so, the signing seems to be flying under the radar of most U.S. based defense and foreign affairs analysts and pundits so far. Would it be cynical to suggest that announcing and signing the treaties on U.S. election day was a deliberate move designed to accomplish exactly that?



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