Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Tuesday, November 30, 2010

Of Wikileaks, Secrecy, Crimes and Punishment

By Steve Hynd


Yesterday, conservative blogger Doug Ross linked to my last post on the new Wikileaks document dump, saying "the Statists can't seem to find much to criticize the despicable crackpot leaker and Julian Asshatter for". It's a bit rich, linking to a post where I was trying to set out an overview of the leaks themselves and staying entirely away from what I find to be rather tedious and circular arguments over blame and punishment among the blogeratti, but there you have it. I suppose I should write something about where I stand on the whole "Assange is a terr'ist!" thing.


Let's start of by stating, as a matter of self-evident truth, that if this latest leak had been of cables from another nation's diplomats - say Britain's - there would have been a round of back-smacking that American "very serious persons" hadn't been caught flat-footed like the hapless Brits, some analysis by foreign policy types and a great yawn of indifference from everyone else. The information contained in the cables, gleaned from diplomats talking to their opposite numbers in other countries, could have been pretty much the same. Few in America would care because in general Americans don't care anything like as much about foreign policy as they do about domestic politics. The fuss is almost entirely because the leaks were of American secrets, not because of the secrets themselves.


Much of the rest of the fuss, especially from conservative-leaning voices, is because the leaks came from Assange and the Wikileaks team on the heals of two other large document dumps from the U.S. I keep seeing tweets from right-leaning American national security types lamenting "why don't Wikileaks dump documents from another country? They hate America."


It may be true, but it's beside the point. I submit that the real reason Wikileaks haven't managed to leak secrets from other nations on this scale is that they take better care of their secrets. That is a key part of the proximate cause of all the trouble, but most American pundits are doing their level best to ignore the fact.


In the aftermath of 9/11, the U.S. intelligence community was faced by two conflicting pressures. The first, which is the perennial problem of intelligence work, is the tendency to classify stuff that shouldn't be secret and to classify higher actual secret stuff that shouldn't be. The second, which became a pressure only after it was concluded that compartimentalization of data helped 9/11 happen because various agencies weren't sharing their part of the picture, was to a pressure to disseminate classified data as widely as possible to cleared individuals. Thus we arrived at monstrosities like the network from which the current cable dump was stolen - a vast repository of over 2 million somewhat-secret documents accessed by over 2.5 million individuals ranked all the way down to private. I'd like to quote my friend and one-time intelligence insider Ron Beasley here (emphasis mine):



The real embarrassment here is just how arrogant and incompetent the US government is. When I worked for the DIA long before PCs and the internet we used to joke that Confidential meant it was Time Magazine last week - Secret meant it would be in Time Magazine next week. You are right, a data base that 2 million people have access to is eventually going to be leaked.



When looking for blame to apportion, start there.


If U.S. diplomacy and U.S. prestige have taken a hit from these leaks, that's tough. This is the real world, not a fairytale. The U.S. created the conditions for the leaks - it must needs, as my Texan wife would put it, "pull up its big-girl panties and deal". It cannot play Ollie to Assange's Stan Laurel, claiming "Now look what you made me do".


That said, the actual thief must bear a great deal of the blame as the other necessary part of the proximate cause. While such a trove was a leak in waiting, it still needed an actual leaker. We've some notion of who that person might be, but no certainty other than that he or she was an American with access - not Assange or anyone else at Wikileaks. That person will doubtless be found guilty in a court of law of espionage, perhaps even treason, and must take whatever punishment the court decides.


Assange and Wikileaks, however, are at worst in the position of recieving stolen goods and distributing them (without payment). Assange is not a U.S. citizen and Wikileaks is not a U.S.-based organisation - nor did they do the actual thieving. If they have committed a crime, it is a far lesser one.


Just as a thought experimement, imagine the actual thief of the data had gone direct to the UK's Guardian or Germany's Der Spiegel newspapers rather than to Wikileaks, who then brokered the data. Do you imagine for one moment that either newspaper wouldn't have published such a scoop? Would quite so many people be calling a newspaper a "terrorist organisation", calling for the use of force, accusing the paper of espionage? No, it would just be journalism as usually practised in places where the media are not entirely the loyal lapdogs of the government. Glenn Greenwald has more on that theme.


And remember:


 "U.S. officials concede that they have no evidence to date that the documents led to anyone's death."



5 comments:

  1. Why do you say that the actual leaker might have committed a crime, even treason? Don't members of the U.S. military also take an oath to preserve and uphold the constitution? Arguably, that's what the whistleblower believed s/he was doing.
    If the whistleblower is a member of the military, then maybe s/he has violated some much lower-level regulation, but that pales in the face of defending the constitution, doesn't it?

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  2. Hi skdadl,
    The leaker may well use something akin to that argument in his defense. The trouble is, I don't think it can fly. Espionage and treason are two well deliniated crimes under US law, but the constitution has an unusual status. Although it is a touchstone used to determine the legality of other laws, no-one who ever framed an unconstitutional law has ever been prosecuted for "failing to uphold the constitution" even while under oath to do so. I'm unaware of any military prosecutions in a similiar vein. Upholding the constitution just doesn't seem to have the force of law that would make it a defense for committing another crime. Weird, but there it is. To this foreigner, an interesting anomaly in US law.
    Regards, Steve

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  3. 1. Wikileaks has put out documents from countries other the the USA. 2. The classification system is overloaded because much of it is used to hide things that may be embarrassing to some people. 3. The outrage is driven by the fact that the curtain has been pulled back from the wizard of oz and the outraged have been deprived of their imaginary world. 4. Beasley is right. When I was in the Navy I watched the news before I went to work. One day I saw a secret message discussing an issue that I had seen on the news that morning. I had to bring up the question, "now that I know it is secret, am I not allow to talk about it anymore?" 5. I can't believe many of the same people who have been complaining about the secrecy of the Bushies and now Obamans are not rejoicing at this.

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  4. One aspect of this tentacle of the story that also gets overlooked is the administration of the database(s). Any American business has regulatory compliance issues that parallel this type of information, like human resources info. Sarbanes-Oxley standards compliance in administrating this data would have been sufficient to give anyone pause before accessing stuff they ought not.
    Are we to believe that there was/is no logging of access to data? Are we to believe that monitoring employee data trends doesn't happen for efficiency's sake if not for security's sake?
    This is not rocket science, in fact it is as mundane and essential as anything in the IT world. The narrative on NPR and teevee so far would lead us to believe that all access has to stop, but that simply isn't so- we just have to perform the most basic due diligence of systems administration that any business in America would expect from their own staff or service provider.
    With the untold billions spent on information management every year we can't expect our federal government to function on the most basic level of information management? Where does all that money actually go?
    How does the State Dept deal with USB drives? they fill the USB slots with epoxy so no one can use them. That will fix it. Until someone decides to use a bluetooth device or firewire or encrypted proxy connection or whatever.
    Are we supposed to believe that the IT staff is as dumb/mendacious as our elected leaders?

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  5. Oh boy, that's rich...accusing you of being a "statist" because of your support for an organization actively working to short-circuit the information flow control mechanisms of the state. The real statists are the one's calling for Assange's head.

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