Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Thursday, February 17, 2011

What 'Strategic Relationship' With Pakistan?

By Steve Hynd


Michael Cohen has a good post today looking at what the Raymond Davis affair tells us about America's relationship with supposed key ally Pakistan in the "War on Terror", and gives us a precis of the true state of play.



 shall we catalog for a moment all the ways in which Pakistan is not just a lousy ally, but is actually undermining US interests.


1) Is home to Osama bin Laden and other top al Qaeda lieutenants (and has been for 9 years) and has made little effort to deal with the issue.


2) Is home to terrorist training camps like one where the Times Square bomber was trained - and also has made little effort to deal with that issue.


3) Is actively supporting an insurgent group in Afghanistan that is killing US soldiers on a regular basis.


4) Provides safe haven to that same insurgency and even after repeated US demands/requests/inducements has offered no indication they are willing end its support for these groups.


5) Has created a diplomatic incident with the United States over the arrest of a protected US diplomat.


Does this sound like the behavior of a country that is interested in a strategic partnership with the United States?


Now granted I understand that it can be a long and drawn-out process of improving relations, but after 9 years shouldn't it be obvious that the United States has made virtually no progress in turning Pakistan into a true strategic ally of the United States....no matter how many sharp sticks they put in the eye of the United States there will be little to no consequences because we need Pakistan a lot more than they need us. How many more pieces of evidence do we need before it becomes abundantly clear that Pakistan is not interested in doing anything to help the US that would even slighly undermine Pakistan's own interests? 



It's a drum I've beaten more than once myself. But I'd like to develop the idea further than Mike does. He tweets that the most obvious effect would be to stop expecting what we do in Afghanistan to have any effect whatsoever on Pakistan's behaviour. That's certainly true - leading anyone with even half a brain to conclude that a far smaller Afghan presence, something like Austin Long's work on a CT strategy, would be a better bet - if not outright and complete withdrawal.


But if Pakistan is not now and never will be a true ally of the US, as seems obvious, then that has further policy ramifications than just what we do next in Afghanistan. Should we be looking at a policy of containment for Pakistan, accepting it as a de facto enemy, rather than smoozing Pakistani leaders with aid that gets redirected to private coffers and military shiny-toys that are immediately aimed at India? Should we be cancelling Kerry-Lugar and F-16s paid for by loans funded by US taxpayers and instead imposing sanctions, telling Pakistan's decent people that they're on their own until they do something about their entrenched military and feudal elites? Should we accept that Pakistan is already in China's orbit vis-a-vis the new Cold War that hawks on both sides think is already being waged? Should the US be unequivocally supporting India as a flourishing democratic voice in the region?


These are all questions that follow unavoidably from the realization that "the United States has made virtually no progress in turning Pakistan into a true strategic ally of the United States", yet few in the US foreign policy set seem prepared to ask, let alone answer them.



1 comment:

  1. For a somewhat different take on the Davis affair from Michael Cohen, as well as an understanding of the situation at a level other than "what do you expect from the slimy bastards," read this. The lady is a lawyer so her views on whether Davis has diplomatic immunity might be worth considering. Contra Cohen the diplomatic immunity argument certainly does not seem like an open and shut case.

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