Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Friday, May 13, 2011

A win in Scotland, a Republican debate, and Pakistan

By Steve Hynd


For those of you who don't yet listen, I thought maybe I should summarize last night's Polizeros Radio. It was one of our widest ranging discussions yet, with a lot packed into 60 minutes. Our host Josh Mull dived straight in with the Scottish National Party's landmark win in the elections there and its possible impact. As my co-panellist Bob Morris puts it:



The SNP describes itself as center-left, which by US standards would be considered far left. They favor no fees at universities and have already instituted free prescriptions for drugs. Scotland has huge mostly untapped wind, wave, and tidal power and could easily support itself should it vote for independence, something the SNP plans on bringing to referendum within five years.


The SNP, who have been around for decades, won because they a) never gave up, b) clearly stand for something. This is how to win in America too.



The SNP's members, as lefties, could have decided to be a part of the larger UK Labour Party but didn't because they had that one agenda item - greater representation and eventual independence for Scotland - that Labour was never going to have. Over the years, and especially under Blair, the Labour Party moved towards the center and that left the SNP's members with a realization: they were now the only party advocating the rest of their democratic socialist agenda too. The lesson for American lefties should be obvious. Why vote for a party that will only ever enact a small portion of your agenda? You deserve to have a party to vote for that will represent you 100%. If that party doesn't exist, form it and build it, even if it takes decades.


From there, we moved the discussion to the first Republican debate. I didn't watch it but Josh was struck by both the amount of antiwar and anti-drug war views coming from the podium and the amount of cheering those views were getting. The Republican leadership are now more anti-war than Democratic leaders. The tea party seems to be waning in power and saner (paleocon) Republican views seem to be resurgent. That's a good thing in my opinion but there's also a certain amount of "lets do to them what they did to Bush" going on, I think. Neither party seems to be particularly anti-war when it's in office. Still, we're seeing a Republican race which isn't anywhere as crazilly wingnut (yet) as many expected. I repeated my prediction from a Polizeros Radio show weeks ago - we're going to see the Right elect a grey, uninspiring, compromise candidate this cycle, basically "doing a Kerry" as the Dems did in 2004.


All this talk of Republicans being anti-war led us to Pakistan. After all, the way in which Osama Bin Laden's death and hiding place have highlighted the fact that the Afghan war can never be won by the US. If Pakistan is aiding and directing militants and terror groups, offering them safe haven, then no amount of "clear, hold, build" will be effective. Maybe Republicans in opposition are just faster to get that than Democrats cheerleading their president for right or wrong - especially when it tallies nicely with the Right's "zomg the deficit!" schtick.


But Pakistan may have finally bitten off more than it can chew at a regional level. Two weeks ago, it was the consensus that the Afghan government had finally decided to offer Pakistan whatever it wanted just to get the violence to stop. But now we see a new Afghan intransigence, a sense of vindication that what they'd been saying about Pakistan's double-dealing has finally been brought out in the open by the OBL raid where US officials can't pretend any more. And India has been quick to step into the breach, with a strategic trade agreement and an increase of around 25% (some $500 million) in its aid to Afghanistan.


I'll go waaaay out on a limb and suggest that we may see the residual force in Afghanistan after 2014 now not be Americans or NATO but Indians in UN blue hats. For India, its a move in their cold war with China - one in which Pakistan is already firmly in the Chinese camp. So far, that cold war has been entirely waged by economic leveraging and a bit of proxy feuding but there's always a chance of it turning hot in future as both regional powers bid for economic superpowerdom the only way there is - maritime trade.


In fact, i wonder if analysts in the US are missing a key Chinese motivation when they look at the Chinese military/industrial complex through glasses that say it always has to be about the US. For instance, China's anti-carrier ballistic missile is supposedly incredibly innacurate and unlikely to break through a US carrier group's AEGIS defenses. But if it is aimed at India's future single carrier then it makes far more sense - because then a dozen missiles only have to score a hit once. It may be that the Chinese are as focussed on India as the Indians are on them. In which case the US is peculiarly irrelevant, if China has no intention of competing with American military might. It's not always about us.


Anyway, as I say it was one of our most wide-ranging shows. You can listen to the whole thing here and please, join us next week.



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