Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Saturday, May 14, 2011

Time for a U.S./Pakistan Divorce?

By Steve Hynd


The fallout from the US raid which killed Osama binLaden continues, with the head of Pakistan's I.S.I. intelligence agency, Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha, lashing out at the United States before his country's parliament. Following closely on a widespread new appreciation of Pakistan's double game and Pakistani Prime Minister Gilani's blaming the U.S. for a "trust deficit" between the two nations, relations between the two "allies" may be at an all-time low.


Now, there's a resolution in their parliament asking Pakistani leaders to consider ending a NATO transit route for forces in Afghanistan - a perennial lever, as it gets shut down every time there's the slightest dispute between the US and Pakistan. It's no longer as essential to NATO supply lines as it once was though, since the constant disruptions long ago led to development of routes through Russia and its former states. However, someone in the Pakistani defense establishment feels the need to up the ante even further, an anonymous "senior official" who is has now called the alliance between the US and Pakistan a "forced marriage" and said there should be a divorce.



As country�s top military commanders and intelligence heads briefed the joint-session of the parliament on Abbotabad debacle in a closed-door sitting on Friday, senior defense officials said Islamabad was most likely to �get divorce from his rude ally (US).�


A senior official familiar with the developments taking place in the backdrop of the killing of bin Laden said that trust is the key to successful relations. �When you lose trust, you may lose relationship. Respectable separation is far better than disregarded relations,� he insisted.


Referring to the US mindset depicted in a recent media report titled �Obama ordered troops to fight their way out of Pakistan� he said: �It shows the level of brinkmanship adopted by President Obama.� This also shows how quickly the US can turn an ally into an enemy, he warned.


�For them, there is hardly any respect for the sovereignty of other countries. In this particular case if Pakistan would have shown any reaction, it might have resulted into a war between Pakistan and the US. We must revisit our policy,� the official reiterated.



Revisiting policy wouldn't be a bad idea for American policymakers either - even if it's made a less likely prospect by the entailing need for an embaraqssing about-face after their bi-partisan public support for Pakistan over the years. In a must-read piece for the New Yorker, Lawrence Wright lays out many of the reasons the US should look askance at its "ally" - including several like supporting terror groups and militants killing US troops or having a dangerously destabilizing nuclear weapons program that got Iran sanctions while pakistan got billions in military aid - and writes:



 If the measure of our aid is the gratitude of the Pakistani people and the loyalty of their government, then it has clearly been a failure. Last year, a Pew Research Center survey found that half of Pakistanis believe that the U.S. gives little or no assistance at all. Even the Finance Minister, Hafiz Shaikh, said last month that it was �largely a myth� that the U.S. had given tens of billions of dollars to Pakistan. And if the measure of our aid is Pakistan�s internal security, the program has fallen short in that respect as well. Pakistan is endangered not by India, as the government believes, but by the very radical movements that the military helped create to act as terrorist proxies.



Doing the same thing over and over when it is proven not to work is one definition of insanity, and by any measure sending ransom money to Pakistan is not serving the American national interest. If Pakistan wants a divorce, it should be granted.


Update: Ashley J. Tellis, currently of the Carnegie Endowment and formerly senior advisor to the US Ambassador to India, thinks that Pakistan's concern about its sovereignty being violated by the OBL raid is a smokescreen:



 �Even as you read this�, he says, �you can be certain that the ISI is reviewing its tradecraft, assessing its vulnerabilities, and moving and burying its assets more deeply than before. This is a cat and mouse game and the ISI is very good at playing it�.



As he says, "If some elements of the Pakistani state, in fact, sheltered Bin Laden, as is likely, then the issue is not sovereignty, but a violation of international responsibility."



2 comments:

  1. The biggest consequence for the US of breaking-up with Pakistan is of a geopolitical nature.
    As the US pulls out of Pakistan (think military aid, Kerry-Lugar, assistance in obtaining IMF loans, etc), China and Saudi Arabia will step-up their help. If these countries are capable of dictating Pakistan's policy this will negatively impact America's strategic position in the region.
    Saudi Arabia recently obtained "an insurance" consisting of 2 Pak Army divisions should unrest in Bahrain spill-over to Saudi. China has an interest in keeping India busy through Pakistan. The more attention India has to devote to Pakistan, the better for China which is seeking to expand its role in the region.
    Needless to say, these would be negative developments for the US. My tentative conclusion: the US is tied to Pakistan, even if it perhaps doesn't want to be. In that sense, Boehner's recent announcement - in which he said continuing aid to Pakistan is in the US interest - is actually an indication that he understands the possible negative outcome of a divorce with Pakistan.

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  2. Surprised, why does the old post vanish when new posted?
    What do you expect U.S. to do if Pak non-cooperate in return of NATO forces from Afghan? Do you expect Powerful state to beg to Pak for way out? Even a kid know that if you throttle someone, the someone is going to fight fiercely. Only fool will think otherwise. Military is bred to fight and not submit.
    It is not U.S. who turned an ally in enemy. It is Pak who put themselves in enemies list by allowing Osama on their land. The info of Osama being in Pak itself was end of any good relations with Pak. It was natural and no effort needed to end. Only efforts needed are to revamp the relationship.
    The relationship between U.S. & Pak is and was, a needbased contract and not bond of friendship. It is Master & Keep relationship, not friendship.
    Pradip, all four of your posts were visible. However, I have just now deleted the previous three because you were only repeating yourself. Thanks. Steve Hynd.

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