Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Wednesday, June 29, 2011

225,000 Lives, Over 4 Trillion Dollars - For What?

By Steve Hynd


Not to harsh your Humpday Wednesday but...



A new report out of Brown University estimates that the U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq--together with the counterinsurgency efforts in Pakistan--will, all told, cost $4 trillion and leave 225,000 dead, both civilians and soldiers.


The group of economists, anthropologists, lawyers, humanitarian personnel, and political scientists involved in the project estimated that the cost of caring for the veterans injured in the wars will reach $1 trillion in 30 or 40 years. In estimating the $4 trillion total, they did not take into account the $5.3 billion in reconstruction spending the government has promised Afghanistan, state and local contributions to veteran care, interest payments on war debt, or the costs of Medicare for veterans when they reach 65.



Iraq is still muchly a mess. Even now, watchdogs are still issuing reports of illegal detentions, torture while in custody and rampant corruption. Attacks still happen on a daily basis and US soldiers are still dying there. Afghanistan is, if anything, even worse. Neither nation shows any sign of functioning close to pre-invasion par anytime in the next decade. Iran has been strengthened by Iraq's collapse and the people who perpetrated 9/11 found sanctuary and succor in Pakistan. The freedom agenda, bringing democracy at gunpoint, simply didn't happen. It was all so not worth it.



"We decided we needed to do this kind of rigorous assessment of what it cost to make those choices to go to war," study co-director Catherine Lutz told Reuters. "Politicians, we assumed, were not going to do that kind of assessment."



Damn straight.



2 comments:

  1. Trillions spent, thousands dead, so Big Oil can make money. Just think what could have been done with 4 Trillion, a Maglev network across America would just be a drop in the bucket.

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  2. You got it right! And the country needs high speed rail big time!
    There ought to be(of course there never will be) a tax surcharge of 50% on all current and former national politicians who voted for these wars, including Bush/Cheney for the next 25 years. American exceptionalism really means that those in power are seldom or never held accountable for their mistakes, misdeeds and malfeasance.

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