Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Monday, June 20, 2011

Have The Neocons Already Lost The GOP In 2012?

By Steve Hynd


This, from Jom Lobe, veteran journalist for IPS news:



If there were ever any doubt that the three-year-old Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI) is a re-incarnation of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), that should be dispelled by the publication of today�s �Open Letter to House Republicans� in which the 38 (virtually exclusively neo-conservative) signatories declare that they are �gravely concerned �by news reports that Congress may consider reducing or cutting funding for U.S. involvement in the NATO-led military operations against the oppressive regime of Libyan dictator Muammar al-Qaddafi.�


...Two points to stress about this letter: 1) these are the same people who brought us the war in Iraq and who were completely taken in by Ahmad Chalabi; and 2) it is directed exclusively at Republicans, a fact that bolsters the notion that, for the first time since 9/11, the neo-cons feel they risk losing control of the party�s foreign policy.


The latter point was also underlined by Ross Douthat�s excellent column in the New York Times today in which he contrasted the worldviews of Sens. Rand Paul and Marco Rubio and noted, correctly:


�Among conservatism�s foreign policy elite, Rubio�s worldview commands more support. But in the grass roots, it�s a different story.�



More from Lobe here as he notes that:



Just last week, the Pew Research Center released its latest poll on U.S. foreign policy attitudes which found that "the current measure of isolationist sentiment is among the highest recorded" in more than 50 years.

While, for much of the Bush administration, only one in four Republicans said the U.S. should "mind its own business" internationally, that percentage has nearly doubled since Bush left office. The Pew survey also found a 50 percent increase in Republican support for "reducing [U.S.] military commitments overseas" - from 29 percent in 2008, to 44 percent in May, 2011. Moreover, 56 percent of Republicans said they support reducing those commitments as a way to cut the budget deficit.

Similarly, Republicans appear to have lost virtually all interest in promoting Bush�s and the neoconservatives� "Freedom Agenda" abroad. According to the Pew poll, only one in ten Republicans said they believe democracy-promotion should be a long-term U.S. priority.



My own view is here. Basically, I think the Republicans are doing what the Dems did: they hate America's wars only as long as the other side's guy is in the White House but as soon as their own guy is running the American hegemony, they swivel on a dime and desert their isolationist, anti-war stances in droves.



2 comments:

  1. Basically, I think the Republicans are doing what the Dems did: they hate America's wars only as long as the other side's guy is in the White House but as soon as their own guy is running the American hegemony, they swivel on a dime and desert their isolationist, anti-war stances in droves.
    Steve
    I was around and politically aware when the neocons were forced out of the Democratic party and it was when Johnson was waging the Vietnam war which the base of the Democratic party opposed. Humphrey lost to Nixon because he was seen as too hawkish for the base and they did not support him.

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