Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Thursday, July 28, 2011

Chump Change

By Steve Hynd


OK, here's the deal: the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says that the GOP's plan to cut the deficit at the same time as raising the debt ceiling will save a measly $850 billion over 10 years rather than the $1.2 trillion initially promised. That's just a bit more than the annual expenditure on defense's shiny toys and foreign adventures. The CBO says the Dem plan cuts $2.1 trillion over the same period.


So why are we still talking about the GOP plan as a serious option?


Even the Dem plan by Senate leader Harry Reid isn't going to be enough to stave of a downgrading of U.S. credit-worthiness, according to McLatchy:



Moody's Investors Service and Standard & Poor's, when putting U.S. bonds on a credit watch in mid-July for a possible downgrade within 90 days, said they feared that the political stalemate could lead to a solution that didn't significantly alter the course of the mounting U.S. debt. Right now, those fears seem warranted.


Only an agreement that cuts at least $4 trillion over 10 years from the projected rate of debt growth would be seen as "significant."



A downgrade means the government would have to borrow more to pay its bills. State legislatures and financial institutions would find the same thing happening to them. And:



Lots of U.S. lending rates are based at least in part on the interest rates on U.S. government bonds. These include mortgages, car loans and student loans. If there's a ratings downgrade and U.S. bond yields rise, that will spill over eventually into lending rates across the economy. This will add another head wind to the weak recovery.



Jason Rosenbaum is spot on when he explains the GOP's hypocrisy by saying that "Boehner and the GOP will walk away from any plan that doesn�t cripple President Obama." However, neither party's plan is seriously attempting to stave off a downgrade, because neither party is willing to take enough of a knife to bloated military spending and neither party wants to do the one other thing that could possibly get any plan close to that $4 trillion threshold without screwing funding for the poor and elderly entirely - raise revenue by raising taxes.


What both parties are quite willing to do is fund-raise off the political kabuki.


Why is America voting for any of these chumps again?



5 comments:

  1. It should be pointed out that S&P made it clear that repeal of the Bush/Obama tax cuts would also be necessary to avoid a down grade. That's in addition to the 4 billion in cuts.

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  2. A downgrade means the government would have to borrow more to pay its bills.
    I think that should read the government will have to pay more to borrow, as in the interest rates on new government debt will rise and make it more expensive to borrow money. The amount it will be borrowing should remain the same for the immediate future, at least once the debt ceiling does get raised and they can borrow (issue debt) again.
    Granted that in time this will lead to more borrowing if they continue to run deficits, but that's not the immediate effect of a downgrade.

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  3. >> Why is America voting for any of these chumps again?
    To hell with waiting for the 2012 election. We're in the middle of a national emergency!
    The only way we're going to get a functioning government is to immediately begin recalls on every last Congressional Representative, and then vote in a whole new House.
    What's the best way to organize a nation-wide recall effort -- with dispatch?

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  4. The only way we're going to get a functioning government is to immediately begin recalls on every last Congressional Representative, and then vote in a whole new House.
    Sorry we can't recall House or Senate members. Only the House can kick out a House member and only the Senate can kick out a Senator.

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  5. >> Sorry we can't recall House or Senate members.
    Then for God's sake let's start a nation-wide petition demanding that they all immediately resign.
    None of them would resign, of course, no matter how many millions of voters signed the petition. But at least we'd have given them a preview of what the 2012 election results are going to look like if they don't start behaving like adults.

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