Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Monday, July 25, 2011

Counterjihad - Not A "Religion Of Peace?"

By Steve Hynd


Apparently the Norwegian far-right terrorist Anders Breivik was a big fan of that strain of wingnut bloggers who call themselves "counterjihadists".



His manifesto, which denounced Norwegian politicians as failing to defend the country from Islamic influence, quoted Robert Spencer, who operates the Jihad Watch Web site, 64 times, and cited other Western writers who shared his view that Muslim immigrants pose a grave danger to Western culture.


...The revelations about Mr. Breivik�s American influences exploded on the blogs over the weekend, putting Mr. Spencer and other self-described �counterjihad� activists on the defensive, as their critics suggested that their portrayal of Islam as a threat to the West indirectly fostered the crimes in Norway.


Mr. Spencer wrote on his Web site, jihadwatch.org, that �the blame game� had begun, �as if killing a lot of children aids the defense against the global jihad and Islamic supremacism, or has anything remotely to do with anything we have ever advocated.� He did not mention Mr. Breivik�s voluminous quotations from his writings.



Adam Serwer, writing for the Plum Line blog at the New York Times, hits one out of the park:



American anti-Islam bloggers aren�t to blame for the Norway Massacre. But their response to the attacks is nonetheless revealing, in that they are now demanding the kind of nuanced analysis of the Norway shootings that they�ve always failed to offer when implicating jihadism or all Muslims for terror attacks.


...Most of Geller and Spencer�s blogging consists of attempts to tar all Muslims with the responsibility for terrorism. At CPAC last year, Geller and Spencer drew a large crowd for their documentary referring to the proposed community center near Ground Zero as �the second wave of the 9/11 attacks.� Yet they�re now pleading for the world not to do what they�ve spent their careers doing � assigning collective blame for an act of terror through guilt-by-association. What�s clear is that they understand that the principle of collective responsibility is a monstrous wrong in the abstract, or at least when it�s applied to them. They are now begging for the kind of tolerance and understanding they cheerfully refuse to grant to American Muslims.


These bloggers are not directly responsible for the actions of Anders Behring Breivik. But make no mistake: Their school of analysis, which puts the blame on all Muslims for acts of terrorism perpetrated by Islamic extremists, has been fully discredited � by their own reaction to the Oslo attacks. While it�s obvious that few if any of them will take this lesson to heart, the rest of us should � terrorist acts are committed by individuals, and it is those individuals who should be held responsible.



Or. as the immortal Scottish bard might put it: "O would some Power the gift to give us, To see ourselves as others see us!"



2 comments:

  1. Frankly, I�d say that�s letting them off far too easy. I�d quote from the another story at the NYTimes today:
    Marc Sageman, a former C.I.A. officer and a consultant on terrorism, said it would be unfair to attribute Mr. Breivik�s violence to the writers who helped shape his world view. But at the same time, he said the counterjihad writers do argue that the fundamentalist Salafi branch of Islam �is the infrastructure from which Al Qaeda emerged. Well, they and their writings are the infrastructure from which Breivik emerged.�
    �This rhetoric,� he added, �is not cost-free.�

    Blaming all Muslims for the actions of a few is wrong, but there are those in the Muslim community whose rhetoric and actions place them in a far more blame-worthy position for the violence.
    By the same token, I wouldn�t blame all Christians for the actions of the terrorist few like Breivik, but there are those whose rhetoric and actions inspire and inform such actions, and while they may not be directly responsible, neither are they totally blameless.

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  2. Check out Jaff Sharlet's tweet.
    Holy moly. #RickPerry prayer rally champ sez Oslo killer manifesto "accurate." http://t.co/poOIUp2 #ReadingBreivik @sarahposner

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