Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


Tuesday, October 25, 2011

mirza9 on Gaddafi

Found on Twitter Beach.
mirza9, Karachi, Pakistan--Journalist. I just wanna get my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

People moralizing from afar about how Gaddafi was killed fail to understand what state of mind people are in when fighting in a war.

No human being should be treated like that, but it's easy for us to say since we're not fighting for our lives. #libya #gaddafi

When you're fighting a war against a dictator who has fueled a half century of pent up rage, unfortunately, this is what happens. Grow up.

As unfortunate as it is, Gaddafi lived by the gun and he died by the gun. You moralize only because you can watch it on video at home.

American drones kill militants without trial every week and most are silent. A 'civil war' is fought,brutal dictator killed and it's immoral

I don't think anyone out there condones how Gaddafi was treated when captured. Fact is, that happens when you provoke people for 50 years.

Not about justifying a mob mentality, it's about understanding that it's a fact of such situations. To judge "new Libya" on it is premature.

I'd be proud of Libyan's if they took the moral high ground in Gaddafi capture but they didn't. Bloody revolutions end with blood #France

How about we just start moralizing and judging the "new Libya" when it actually begins to exist. Not judging the country because of one mob.

What you can judge is the Saddam execution which was carried out within an organized and constructed (sham) state legal apparatus.

What you can judge are extra-judicial assassinations without due process in Pakistan's tribal areas. Triggers pulled from suburban America.

Monologue over. :) 

1 comment:

  1. "American drones kill militants without trial every week and most are silent."
    I think this is what a close friend of mine would call the "blushing crow" (think about it) of the piece. People who are hyperventilating about the summary execution of a brutal tyrant are silent about our own government's weekly summary executions of people based on mere accusation and supposition, often on the unsupported word of those who are known to have "an axe to grind."