Commentary By Ron Beasley
When asked a more voters consider themselves conservatives than liberals. Center Right Nation? Probably not - when asked about specific policies those "conservatives" turn out to be pretty liberal. Keep in mind a majority of voters were in favor of health care reform when it had a public option. A majority our in favor of a smaller government but they want other peoples programs cut not theirs making it political suicide to suggest any programs be cut. Just look what happened to Bush and the Republicans when they tried to kill Social Security. Daniel Larison observes that the ideological tags like conservative and liberal have little meaning and don't reflect how people vote.
...how many respondents define themselves ideologically has no bearing on how they vote or what policies they prefer. We can see how unreliable these labels are when we look at Gallup�s state-by-state surveys of ideological self-identification and then compare them with state-by-state party ID numbers. There are just five states with significant (+5 or more) Republican party ID advantages, and 33 states where the Democrats have a significant advantage, but if you were to look at the state-by-state result for ideological self-identification you would find that liberals outnumber conservatives nowhere outside D.C. Defenders of the �center-right nation� thesis might be tempted to rejoice at this point, but this just shows how politically meaningless conservative self-identification is in many parts of the country. By party ID and most recently by voting preference, most of the �center-right nation� prefers the center-left party.
Larison concludes with this:
The �center-right nation� story has been something of a curse for
conservatives, because it has convinced many of them that the public is
automatically and instinctively on their side, and they keep relying on
this to provide them with political success. If conservatives
recognized that they are not facing a �center-right nation,� they
wouldn�t necessarily be able to sell the public on proposals such as
Ryan�s, but they would at least understand that they have to persuade a
public that does not share their views. They might then realize that
the public is not going to reward them simply for showing up and
declaring their opposition to the other side.
I am not that concerned that the center-right nation meme is a potential curse for the Republicans - my concern is that it becomes a curse for the Democrats when they buy into it and that's exactly what I have seen happen. Of course health care reform was a victim of this thinking. Another example is the continuation of the unpopular wars in the middle east. While a majority oppose them the Democrats are afraid they will be seen as week on defense if they end them.
The biggest danger for the Democrats is they will misinterpret what the teabaggers are all about.
Update:
Our researcher Kat adds this:
Another possibility is that some Democrats insincerely use the
'center-right nation' meme as a convenient excuse/cover for their lack
of support for center-left policies, because their big campaign
contributors or they themselves actually support center-right policies,
in spite of what they say while campaigning..
Home run Kat!
I am not that concerned that the center-right nation meme is a potential curse for the Republicans - my concern is that it becomes a curse for the Democrats when they buy into it and that's exactly what I have seen happen.
ReplyDeleteAnother possibility is that some Democrats insincerely use the 'center-right nation' meme as a convenient excuse/cover for their lack of support for center-left policies, because their big campaign contributors or they themselves actually support center-right policies, in spite of what they say while campaigning.
Home run Kat - you are right!
ReplyDeleteIt's a murky picture any way you look at it. It's easy to forget that the South was once called the "Solid South" because it was so heavily Democrat that primary elections were more important than the general election. The Republican Southern Strategy inverted that designation beginning with Nixon and Southerners to this day remain an ideological dead weight for the GOP nationally.
ReplyDeleteFacing South, just a day or two ago...
On almost every issue, Southern Republicans are far to the right of their national GOP brethren. In fact, GOP Southerners appear to be the driving base for some of the most extreme views circulating in the Republican Party today.
To measure this, normally we'd compare the Southern results to the national average, and then see what the difference is. But since the poll disproportionately surveyed Southerners to start with, instead I looked at how the Southern answers compared to the next most conservative region.
For example, here are four questions the poll asked Republicans about President Obama, with the Southern poll numbers compared to the next-highest region (in each of these cases, the Midwest):
QUESTION: Should Barack Obama be impeached, or not?
South: 42% yes
Next-highest region: 38% yes
Southern difference: +4%
QUESTION: Do you believe Barack Obama was born in the United States, or not?
South: 43% no
Next-highest region: 33% no
Southern difference: +10%
QUESTION: Do you think Barack Obama is a socialist?
South: 67% yes
Next-highest region: 61% yes
Southern difference: +6%
QUESTION: Do you believe Barack Obama wants the terrorists to win?
South: 28% yes
Next-highest region: 22% yes
Southern difference: +6%
An important reminder: These are just self-identified Southern Republicans -- a big caveat, given that Democrats still have a voter registration advantage in most Southern states, even in "red states" that voted against Obama in 2008 (for example, Louisiana has twice as many registered Democrats as Republicans).
When I read "Blue Dog" I automatically think "racist." It's not true in individual cases, but in a political context it is operationally accurate. For many Southerners is matters not where you stand ideologically as long as you are not Black or foreign. (And thanks mostly to Louisiana and the Gulf Coast most Southerners finally have learned to accept Catholics, but only from a distance.)
That's why I like the Nolan Chart as a political metric better than the old Left/Right designations from the French Republic.
"When asked a more voters consider themselves conservatives than liberals. "
ReplyDeleteTypo - Replace 'asked a ' with 'asked, '