Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Wednesday, April 23, 2008

Yes, Virginia, Israel Has Its Own Nukes

By Cernig



Cheryl Rofer, an expert in non-proliferation and nuclear weapons, goes where the mainstream media fears to tread in recent news stories about Clinton's offer of a nuclear umbrella or Israel's attack on Syria:

Israel has nuclear weapons. That is the sentence that cannot be uttered in international relations. The silence distorts much, perhaps most, of our discussion about the Middle East.



...current stories in the MSM are devoid of any mention of Israel�s nukes... But Israel�s nuclear weapons are as much a part of the calculation of international politics as are those of India and Pakistan, or the United States and Russia.



This context is particularly acute for Israel�s neighbors, who recently declared that they would remove themselves from the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty if Israel openly declared its possession of nuclear weapons and the United Nations Security Council did nothing about it. This, of course, is one of the reasons that the United States prefers to continue the pretense.

She has this to say about Clinton's threats of imminent nuclear destruction:

�Massive retaliation� was the description of what the United States would do if Russia attacked with nuclear-tipped missiles. Or vice versa. [Clinton] made that explicit in her later words. She also proposed that the United States offer a �nuclear umbrella� to other states in the Middle East that might feel intimidated by an Iranian nuclear arsenal.

But Iran is a long way from a nuclear arsenal, and Israel is quite capable of its own nuclear retaliation. And I might point out that long before Iran would launch a nuclear attack on Israel with its still-in-a-hypothetical-future arsenal, we might just consider a diplomatic approach to the problem.



Israel, of course, has a real nuclear arsenal. Who needs a �nuclear umbrella� from whom in the Middle East today, in 2008?

Actually, most of the other states in the Middle East would like someone to offer an umbrella against Israel's nukes, not Iran's currently-imaginary ones. That's why the major Arab states have all said they will pursue nuclear power programs and why every single Arab state backed Egypt's September call at the IAEA to seek universal compliance with the NPT and "avoid double standards" in the Middle East.



2 comments:

  1. Nukes and subs and MAD, oh my!
    Nothing quite like deterrence, is there?

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  2. Thanks Cheryl. I actually knew it but it seems a lot of people didn't. Thanks for clueing them in - they wouldn't have believed me.

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