Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Friday, May 30, 2008

It's not you, it's your ideas

By Fester:



Right now if I was running a campaign for a generic Republican challenger against a generic Democrat with no major wife beating, coke sniffing or money freezing problems, my job would be extraordinary tough as the generic issue and political environment is not favorable to my candidate.  I would also be faced with significant internal party pressures to either become more hardline conservative or to be labeled a RINO.  This would not be fun; although it would be challenging. 



Given some recent polling, I would be tempted to advise my candidate to say absolutely nothing on policy beyond puppies are good and run on the brand of being a Republican?  Am I crazy on recommending running away from an issue campaign and running towards a branding campaign?  I don't think so, even though my hypothetical employer would be facing an uphill climb either way and would most likely lose in November as the Next Right is analyzing some very interesting brand and policy polling data:

Let�s take a deeper look into the data and see how
our messages play when voters know where they�re from and when they
don�t know which party is saying what.  If you want the exact wording of both parties� message and the full data, go back and take a second look at the poll.



Let�s start with the economy. When voters know
what party each message comes from, we loose 37% to 58% and trail among
independents by 18%.  Ouch. However, when you read both messages without telling voters who they come from, the story gets worse.



Republican voters like the Democrat�s message more
than their own party�s message by a large 14% margin when they don�t
know which party it comes from.  Just as disturbing, numbers among independents drop by another 10%... giving the Democrats a massive 28% advantage.  Even our horrifically damaged image is better than our message on the economy.  Independents and even Republicans simply like the Democrats� plan more than ours.



Iraq and trade both follow the exact same pattern.  We�re
getting smashed on both issues on the partisan test, but when you look
at the nonpartisan test where our damaged image isn�t a factor, the
numbers get even worse among Independents and Republicans.  A few Democrats (and in the case of trade a bunch
of Democrats) move our way on the nonpartisan ballot.......



 Among
Republicans, support for the GOP message on taxes drops by a gargantuan
53% when the party�s names are removed, leaving the Democrats with a
14% advantage.....  



The takeaway? Our message right now is electoral poison and this isn�t all about �brand.�








OUCH!!!  Branding and consistency of messaging is important but only when the ideas are palatable or can be made palatable to a decent fraction of the population.  Instead what we are seeing right here is the elements of a realigning movement as the Republican Party is rejecting the Republican Party.  Residual loyalty and long-standing brand imaging is currently supporting Republican Party fortunes and not causing disproportionate harm.  Staying away from policy and running as a generic sunshine candidate may be the best that most Republicans could do this fall. 



John McCain has been trying to run a campaign as an anti-Bush change agent who, on most issues, is presenting standard issue Republican policy tropes and when he is not, he is either ill-informed, unengaged, or seeking minimalist defensive measures instead of proactive solutions such as on greenhouse gases auctions.  Right now he is about even in the daily tracking polls although his electoral map is a losing map as of this morning.  So this polling information is reassuring that although the McCain Brand is stronger than the Republican brand, his solution set has very little salience with the public.




2 comments:

  1. Wow. Stunning. Just when I think I can't be shocked anymore. But of course, it makes sense. Sigh.

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  2. So, I dropped in over at thenextright to check out the comments about the branding poll.
    Mostly, it was filled with kvetching about the poll questions or statements that the poll was obviously just wrong.
    They think the brand and the ideas are just fine, thank you very much.
    Delusion, these folks are.

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