Farewell. The Flying Pig Has Left The Building.

Steve Hynd, August 16, 2012

After four years on the Typepad site, eight years total blogging, Newshoggers is closing it's doors today. We've been coasting the last year or so, with many of us moving on to bigger projects (Hey, Eric!) or simply running out of blogging enthusiasm, and it's time to give the old flying pig a rest.

We've done okay over those eight years, although never being quite PC enough to gain wider acceptance from the partisan "party right or wrong" crowds. We like to think we moved political conversations a little, on the ever-present wish to rush to war with Iran, on the need for a real Left that isn't licking corporatist Dem boots every cycle, on America's foreign misadventures in Afghanistan and Iraq. We like to think we made a small difference while writing under that flying pig banner. We did pretty good for a bunch with no ties to big-party apparatuses or think tanks.

Those eight years of blogging will still exist. Because we're ending this typepad account, we've been archiving the typepad blog here. And the original blogger archive is still here. There will still be new content from the old 'hoggers crew too. Ron writes for The Moderate Voice, I post at The Agonist and Eric Martin's lucid foreign policy thoughts can be read at Democracy Arsenal.

I'd like to thank all our regular commenters, readers and the other bloggers who regularly linked to our posts over the years to agree or disagree. You all made writing for 'hoggers an amazingly fun and stimulating experience.

Thank you very much.

Note: This is an archive copy of Newshoggers. Most of the pictures are gone but the words are all here. There may be some occasional new content, John may do some posts and Ron will cross post some of his contributions to The Moderate Voice so check back.


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Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Obama's strength with white voters

By Fester



A central tenet of the Emerging Democratic Majority theory is demographics favor Democrats. The voting population is becoming less white, less Christian of all sorts, less native born and bred for multiple generations and less rural. This has been playing out for a couple of cylces now and I think we should remember these broad trends when looking at electoral claims in 2008. Specifically I want to focus on the claim that Obama is unelectable because he is having signficant problems in capturing whtie votes in Appalachia.  Instead due to current polling performance AND the changing composition of the electorate, white voters may be a comparative strength for Obama and a problem spot for McCain. 



The Jed Report has the proportion of the white vote that Democrats have won since 1992. In all cases the white proportion is less than the overall proportion of the votes that the Democratic Presidential candidate won.

I neglected to make the point that that Obama's 43% support among white voters is actually strong -- especially in the wake of Wright. In 1992, Bill Clinton won 39% of white voters. In 1996, he won 43%. In 2000, Gore won 42%. In 2004, Kerry won 41%. So 43% is a pretty good starting point, especially with 7% undecided. (Obama currently trails McCain by 7%, while Gore lost by 12% and Kerry lost by 17%.)

This is not surprising as the Democratic Party is a pan-racial coalition party and minority groups vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. But winning the white vote is neither neccessary nor sufficient for a Democrat to win the White House. Instead Democrats can win the popular vote by keeping it close. And Obama can keep it sufficiently close as the available evidence supports the conclusion that Obama will be able to pick up roughly the same percentage of white voters as the previous Democrats. 2004 CNN exit polls showed 77% of the Presidential electorate was white. The 2000 CNN exit polls shows the white proportion of the electorate was 81% of all voters. The 1996 CNN exist polls showed that whites made up 83% of the electorate.



We are seeing confirmation that the white electorate share is shrinking and being replaced by non-white voters. I project that the 2008 white share is smaller than the 2004 share which was smaller than the 2000 share, and that was smaller than the 1996 share.



Right now the evidence shows Obama is doing as well as his peer group of Democrats in his proportional margin. More importantly, the relative importance and therefore the subgroup net margin is shrinking.



IF we project that Obama win's 41% of the White vote (same as Kerry) and that the white vote only constitutes 75% of the electorate instead of the 77% of the 2004 electorate, Obama picks up a one point on McCain compared to Kerry's net margin against Bush in 2004. This does not account for the fact that non-white voters break heavily for Democrats. Including that factor and Obama, assuming same exact demographic performance profile of John Kerry, will pick up an additional 1.5 to 1.6% of the vote, which breaks a 3 point Bush win to break even. I would posit that any Democrat believes that 2008 is a more favorable generic year than 2004. The basic takeaway of this post is that Obama, for a Democratic presumptive nominee, is doing fine with the white vote as the white vote is shrinking in comparative importance.



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